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Singles dispute

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From what I have been seeing, there looks to be a bit of edit warring on the Singles in the infobox for the article. I would like for this to settle down, and for a consensus or a compromise to be made on whether those singles should be included or not, with reasoning and sources provided. Instead of back-and-forth edit warring over the singles, I would like discussion from the users involved with the edit conflict. Pinging ShakiraFandom, Newpicarchive, Thedayandthetime and Thedeadpet who are and/or were involved. HorrorLover555 (talk) 03:34, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The tracks TQG and Shakira: Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 53 have been unveiled as pre-release singles. They serve as a promotional component of the album, having been shared with radio stations, included in the album's Tracklist, boosting the album's streaming number since day one, accompanied by a music video, and recognized by various media outlets including Billboard as standalone "singles". Tampering with the release history of these singles would be considered an act of Disruptive Editing
The sources WP:STICKTOTHESOURCE: [1][2][3][4][5][6] ShakiraFandom (talk) 08:15, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
According to Template:Infobox album: "For songs that appear on more than one album, list the song as a single only for the album where the single was released as part of the marketing and promotion of that album. Examples:
If a song is originally released as a single during the marketing and promotion of an album on which it also appears, and is subsequently included on a [another] album, list the song as a single only for the original album and not for the [later]." Thedeadpet (talk) 18:49, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Bizarrap song was not on any other album. That requirement does not apply. CAMERAwMUSTACHE (talk) 23:25, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It was still not part of the promotion of the album. It was released by other label as a standalone single. Thedayandthetime (talk) 12:21, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All of the given sources above say otherwise, it was very much part of the promo cycle; the label is irrelevant, it is common for stuff with other artists to be in collaboration with their label, doesn’t make it not part of the album. CAMERAwMUSTACHE (talk) 13:19, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, it wasn’t part of the promo cycle. If you go to Shakira’s official Instagram profile you can notice how “TQG” and the Bizarrap session are the only singles that don’t have pinned stories, meaning that they don’t have an official section/were not part of the official album rollout. Thedayandthetime (talk) 20:31, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relying solely on that would be violating WP:PRIMARY, especially since several articles mentioned already mention the Bzrp song. Also, Puntería and En Paréntesis aren’t there either so that contradicts your point. CAMERAwMUSTACHE (talk) 23:27, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Shakira Reveals Collabs With Cardi B, Grupo Frontera & More in 'Las Mujeres Ya No Lloran' Tracklist". Billboard. 2024-02-29. Retrieved 2024-05-10.
  2. ^ Flores, Griselda (2024-03-21). "Billboard Explains: How Shakira Dominated the Charts". Billboard. Retrieved 2024-05-10.
  3. ^ Garcia, Thania (2024-02-15). "Shakira to Release First Album in Seven Years, 'Las Mujeres Ya No Lloran'". Variety. Retrieved 2024-05-10.
  4. ^ "SHAKIRA'S INCREDIBLE NEW ALBUM LAS MUJERES YA NO LLORAN OUT NOW – Sony Music Canada". www.sonymusic.ca. Retrieved 2024-05-10.
  5. ^ Pareles, Jon (2024-03-18). "Shakira's Family Came Apart. Then Her Music Soared". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2024-05-10.
  6. ^ America, Good Morning. "Shakira announces 'Las Mujeres Ya No Lloran,' her 1st album in 7 years". Good Morning America. Retrieved 2024-05-10.