Talk:Khosrow Mirza/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Aven13 (talk · contribs) 14:21, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

I can do this review. I started with a major grammar clean up, so if anything I've written compromises your intent, please let me know. It is currently not GA-Status, but we can work to get it that way.

COMMENTS:

• Mention somewhere in the first paragraph what positions Mirza held.

he actually hasn't had a position, yes he was an advisor for his father and had led the committee to russia, but non of them were a position. Amir Ghandi (talk) 21:48, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

• Should "Apology mission" be capitalized all throughout the article?
• Add hyperlinks, and remove duplinks. Generally, you want to link something if it hasn't been linked before in the article, and then never again. Many of these links are out of order.
• Who was Griboyedov? Yes, Mirza met him, but after reading the article, I still can't see what significance he held in Mirza's life. Emphasize somewhere what significance he held.

well Griboyedov's death was cause of Apology Mision so i thought it needed to be mentioned his arrival and death in Tabriz Amir Ghandi (talk) 21:48, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

All info about him should probably be its own paragraph. Maybe something like "When Russian diplomat Alexander Griboyedov and his wife were killed, Mirza was selected to go on an "apology mission"". (Obviously a lot longer than that.)

• Add the names to the end of quotes.
• Make the Popular Culture section a single paragraph instead of two bulleted lists.

That's not quite what I meant. If you could write it into a single paragraph (no lists, lists aren't very helpful) that'd be good.

• Whenever you say the phrase "_____ wrote..." hyperlink the name of whoever wrote it. I don't know who Bournoutian is when I'm reading the article. is he a historian? A friend? Link or give a brief description.
• Why is his age when he died in the infobox "61-62?"
• Organize the bibliography alphabetically.

That's all I have for this moment, but I'm sure to come back with more. Let's get started! Aven13 14:21, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

MORE COMMENTS:

• In terms of sections of the article, one of the biggest issues that article has is that information is scattered all over the place. "Background" should be about his family before he was born, "Early life" should be its own section, and the "appearance and skills" section should be either fully integrated into the main article, or made its own subsection in the "early life" section. Though the quotes themselves are good, it'd probably be better to eliminate one or two and incorporate the rest into the article somehow. The "Popular culture" section should either be expanded to be given more info or merged into another section.

Here's my proposed layout for the article:

BACKGROUND

Subsection: FAMILY

EARLY LIFE

APOLOGY MISSION

Subsection: BACKGROUND (the section about Gribedoyev's death will be incorporated here)

Subsection: TRAVELOGUE

LATER LIFE

IN POPULAR CULTURE

• If you decide to keep the diary entry as a quote, be sure to make it an actual quote like the others as opposed to just quotation marks.
• Is there any more info about him fighting in the Siege of Herat? It's just one sentence right now.

source just says he was present and recorded casualties

• Does "Apology Mission" always need to be in quotation marks?

russian sources wrote it in quotation marks

More to come soon. Aven13 18:52, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

FAILING

I'm sorry, but this article does not meet the GA criteria, and I doubt it can be cleaned up to the extent needed in a timely manner. The images and sources are fantastic, but the prose and the organization of the article just aren't there yet. I would suggest maybe asking someone from the Guild of Copy Editors to proof the page, and then renominating it in the future. Good luck! Aven13 14:32, 9 May 2021 (UTC)