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Sorry, but I don't think the context problems with this article have been addressed. It might not be clear from this article that there were rival claims to the Portuguese throne, we need a bit of background about them, although not a full explanation. PatGallacher (talk) 17:54, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Princess of Braganza

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The descendants of King Miguel have always been called Prince/Princess of Braganza; their titles existed outside of Portuguese traditional law so the rules doesn't apply. Portugal exiled his descendants and they lived their lives abroad so they applied non-Portuguese ways of referring to themselves using the title of Prince/Princess with their house names. The Prince/Princess of Braganza aren't titles granted by any Portuguese monarchs or government, so the rule in Portugal that the only Prince/Princess are the Prince of Portugal (Prince of Brazil and later Prince Royal of Prince) and Prince of Beira and that all other are infantas/infantes can't be applied here. The title exist as much as the title "Duke of Braganza" does with Miguel's descendant; not recognized by any government but still personally used. Portuguese sources use "Princesa de Bragança" (81) and English sources use "Princess of Braganza" (574). Unless you have sources that straight out said the title Prince/Princess of Braganza is a fabrication or an error on the part of the authors of the last two centuries, then you can't said the title doesn't exist. --The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 08:37, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Articles with similar problems edited by User:Trafalgar678 that were fixed a while ago. Removal of title and page move on Prince Miguel, Duke of Viseu, Prince Francis Joseph of Braganza, Princess Isabel Maria of Braganza, and Princess Maria Anna of Braganza. Infanta Maria Adelaide of Portugal was left alone because she lived until the usage changed to Infante/Infanta over Prince/Princess.--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 08:43, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]