Talk:I Not Stupid Too/GA1

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Well-written:
(a) the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; and
- "15-year-old Tom is technologically inclined and a talented blogger, while 8-year-old Jerry enjoys the performing arts and has the lead role in his school concert." - not cool to start a sentence with a number. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 23:42, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  Fixed. --70.71.29.231 (talk) 04:43, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- "While tutoring his sons, Mr. Yeo tells them that people will pay $500 for an hour of his time." - do you mean tutoring? ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 23:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it does mean tutoring. I don't understand what you're objecting to here? --70.71.29.231 (talk) 04:43, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- "After he is caught, his furious father canes him, but calms down when the boy explains that he wanted $500 to "buy" an hour of his father's time." - why is "buy" in quotations? ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 00:00, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  "Buy" is in quotations because he is not actually "buying" an hour of his father's time; the concept is absurd. Common words being used in a manner contrary to their usual purpose are put in quotations. --70.71.29.231 (talk) 04:43, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- "In the ensuing struggle, Chengcai bumps into several gangsters, while Tom's mobile phone falls out of his pocket." - why is it a struggle? ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 00:04, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  Sentence cleaned up and clarified. --70.71.29.231 (talk) 04:43, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- "The gangsters whom Chengcai bump into beat him up." - messy. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 00:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  Cleaned up a little. --70.71.29.231 (talk) 04:43, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- "After the release of I Not Stupid, a sequel was suggested, but Neo had difficulty finding a suitable topic." - who's Neo? Jack Neo? A link would be useful. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 00:14, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  Yes, Jack Neo. He is already linked once in the article. Linking guidelines state that only the first occurrence should be linked, except in lists or tables. In this article, he is already linked twice. --70.71.29.231 (talk) 04:43, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(b) it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.^[1]
- Integrate the "Cast" section into prose. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 00:17, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  Film guidelines explain that a cast list is appropriate if there is insufficient information to form a compelling prose cast section. This article, being a foreign language film, lacks such information. --70.71.29.231 (talk) 04:43, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Verifiable with no original research:
(a) it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;^[2]
- Ref no. 22 needs to be in English. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 00:19, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No it doesn't. There's no requirement for references to be in English. If an equivalent English reference is available, it should be used, but if none exists then foreign language sources are acceptable. In this case, none exists. --70.71.29.231 (talk) 04:30, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, that's not what I meant. It's title needs to be in English. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 14:08, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I changed the reference title to the name of the website: "Welcome to the 28th Hong Kong Film Awards". This is not a direct translation of the reference title. The Chinese reference title came from the page header, which, translated into English, means "26th Hong Kong Film Awards winners". Restrictions on non-English sources would worsen our systemic bias. --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 11:56, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I mistyped. Why don't you have a direct translation? ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 21:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(b) reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose);^[2] and

(c) it contains no original research.
Broad in its coverage:
(a) it addresses the main aspects of the topic;^[3] and

(b) it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.^[4]
Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:^[5]
(a) media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content; and

(b) media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.^[6]

Notes

^ Compliance with other aspects of the Manual of Style is not required for good articles.
^ ^a ^b In-line citations, if provided, should follow either the Harvard references or the cite.php footnotes method, but not both in the same article. Science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines.
^ This requirement is significantly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required by WP:FAC; it allows shorter articles, articles that do not necessarily outline every part of the topic, and broad overviews of large topics.
^ Vandalism reversions, proposals to split or merge content, good faith improvements to the page (such as copy editing), and changes based on reviewers' suggestions do not apply. Nominations for articles that are unstable because of constructive editing should be placed on hold.
^ Other media, such as video and sound clips, are also covered by this criterion.
^ The presence of images is not, in itself, a requirement for Good articles. However, if images (including other media) with acceptable copyright status are appropriate and readily available, then some such images should be provided.

The status of the review is unclear. Is the article partially reviewed? Is the nomination on hold? (P.S. The anonymous editor is not me, but Haemo, who helped me copyedit the article.) --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 11:56, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- I am ready to pass it if you fix the one issue. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 21:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Er, what is the "one issue"? --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 10:04, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Passing. Sorry for the delay. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 00:21, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Compliance with other aspects of the Manual of Style is not required for good articles.

[Harvard_and_cite.php-2] In-line citations, if provided, should follow either the Harvard references or the cite.php footnotes method, but not both in the same article. Science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines.

[3] This requirement is significantly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required by WP:FAC; it allows shorter articles, articles that do not necessarily outline every part of the topic, and broad overviews of large topics.

[4] Vandalism reversions, proposals to split or merge content, good faith improvements to the page (such as copy editing), and changes based on reviewers' suggestions do not apply. Nominations for articles that are unstable because of constructive editing should be placed on hold.

[5] Other media, such as video and sound clips, are also covered by this criterion.

[6] The presence of images is not, in itself, a requirement for Good articles. However, if images (including other media) with acceptable copyright status are appropriate and readily available, then some such images should be provided.

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