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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.

Move logs: Georgia
Georgia (country)
Georgia (U.S. state)

Discussions:

RM, Georgia (country) → Georgia, Not moved, 19 August 2013, Discussion
RM, Georgia (U.S. state) → Georgia, U.S., Withdrawn, 24 July 2014, Discussion
RM, Georgia (U.S. state) → Georgia (state), Not moved, 23 November 2016, Discussion
RM, Georgia (U.S. state) → Georgia (American state), Not moved, 5 January 2018, Discussion
RM, Georgia (U.S. state) → Georgia (state), Not moved, 6 April 2019, Discussion
RM, Georgia (country) → Georgia, Not moved, 11 July 2021, Discussion
RM, Georgia → Georgia (disambiguation), Procedural close, 17 January 2022, Discussion
RM, Georgia → Georgia (disambiguation), Speedy close, 24 April 2022, Discussion
RM, Georgia (country) → Georgia, Not moved, 29 September 2023, Discussion

Older discussions:

RM, Georgia (country) → Georgia, Opposed, 2003
RM, Georgia (country) → Georgia, Opposed, 6 May 2004, Discussion (Poll)
RM, Georgia (country) → Republic of Georgia, Opposed, 23 May 2005, Discussion
RM, Georgia (country) → Georgia, No consensus, 5 July 2006, Discussion
RM, Georgia (country) → Georgia, No consensus, 11 July 2007, Discussion
RM, Georgia (country) → Georgia, No consensus, 15 March 2008, Discussion

The "Georgia" move discussions in a nutshell:

On Wikipedia, the placing of a word in parentheses in the title of an article is primarily used as a method of disambiguation, with the parenthesised word usually being a set that the article's subject is a part of.
The basic debate has been whether the Eurasian country should be the primary topic, and therefore does not need any parenthesised word in the title. Those in favor of such a move often argue that internationally recognised countries should take precedence over sub-national units like the U.S. state, though there are other suggested reasons for primary topic. Some proponents of a move have also argued that the current failure to recognize Georgia (the country) as the primary topic displays a U.S.-centric bias.
Opponents of such a renaming note that under Wikipedia's guidelines, the primary topic can be determined based on which one is significantly more commonly searched for and read than other meanings as well as which one is more important or significant. They generally dispute that the U.S. state of Georgia is any less important; in fact, given the significantly greater size of its population, economy (especially its film industry), geographical area, and main airport, many argue the U.S. state is actually more important despite sharing some of its sovereignty with the United States federal government and not having a seat in the United Nations. They have also argued in the past that since the Eurasian country was (at the time of the above linked discussions) being actually slightly less searched for than the U.S. state, the former should not be the primary topic. Based on all of the foregoing factors, some contend the U.S. state should be the primary topic with no qualifier in its title. Some opponents have also argued that having Georgia as a disambiguation page is a better way to catch cases where an article contains wikilinks to the bare name "Georgia" that should be disambiguated.

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"Alphabetical order by author name"

Two points: 1) those aren't the names of the songwriters (not "authors") and 2) that wouldn't be the correct alphabetization anyways. "Cee Lo Green" would be alphabetized under "Green, Cee Lo". "Elton John" would be alphabetized under "John, Elton". And so on. "Field Mob" would, however, be alphabetized under "Field Mob". --Khajidha (talk) 14:40, 19 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Georgia (country) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 23:31, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 17 January 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Procedural close, initiator is a blocked sockpuppet. Other editors may craft a new proposal, keeping in mind the many times this has been previously discussed. CMD (talk) 18:15, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia → Georgia (disambiguation) – as reason stated here. उत्कर्ष555 (talk) 16:44, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So that we don't have two concurrent discussions, I'd request that this be closed and the other move linked in the nomination updated to include this one.--Yaksar (let's chat) 17:30, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussions should indeed be merged, but as seen in this talk page's header, "Discussions regarding the titles of the articles Georgia, Georgia (country) and Georgia (U.S. state) should be held at Talk:Georgia." 162 etc. (talk) 17:45, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have nothing against that, the other just already had a !vote when I made this comment.--Yaksar (let's chat) 17:59, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Requested move 24 April 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Speedy Close as a perennial discussion with no new arguments presented in nomination. Recommended permanent or long-term term moratorium against further nominations, as neither subject is liable to change its name in the forseeable future. (non-admin closure) BilCat (talk) 19:24, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum: This discussion was proposed by an alternate account of the user who proposed the previous move. BilCat (talk) 23:42, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia → Georgia (disambiguation) – A more narrowed down and straight to the point for the disambiguation. eg, India (disambiguation). Anyways, the main title should be always retained for high priority and often used articles. Eg, this title should be crowned for the country, which is sandwiched between Asia and Europe. Utkarsh555 10:46, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, "If no primary topic exists, then the term should be the title of a disambiguation page (or should redirect to a disambiguation page on which more than one term is disambiguated)." I disagree that it's obvious that either the country or the US state is the primary topic, and I'm not a fan of frequent relitigation: this was just discussed in the past year. Largoplazo (talk) 12:32, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per everything Largoplazo said. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 13:04, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. There is no primary topic here. The status quo should remain. Rreagan007 (talk) 16:21, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose per my comment in the other RM that was recently closed. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:25, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This has been discussed at length before, and there is no reason to do it again here. 162 etc. (talk) 16:27, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Georgia (country) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 01:01, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]