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I am not so sure if GUBU refers to Grotesque, Unbelievable, Bizarre and Unprecedented or Grotesque, Unbelievable, Bizarre, Unprecedented; certainly most sources refer to it been the former, with the word "and". Can anyone clarify? Djegan 18:39, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Given that a quick google will tell you that unbelievable comes before unprecedented, and this is stated in the opening sentence; therefore could someone check Dwyer's book - perhaps the person who put it up put it in the wrong order by accident, as the reference only gives a chapter and not a page(s). The articles contradicts itself at the minute. Donegal92 (talk) 19:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MacArthur

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Wouldn't it be worth having an article entitled Malcolm MacArthur, instead of just a redirect?--Dub8lad1 23:06, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If enough material can be found why not - certainly he was unusual. Djegan 17:54, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Probably still is, in fact! I'll see about finding more information about him and the case.--Dub8lad1 23:23, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I know this thread is old but I really agree that Malcom Macarthur should have his own article. If anything, the GUBU article should be redirected to the Malcom Macarthur page 14:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC) Siofra 14:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

John Banville

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Does anybody know if Banville was inspired by this story when he wrote "The Book Of Evidence"? There seem to be quite a few similarities.82.3.79.106 18:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I always thought it was inspired by Macarthur and there are some references to that if you google for John Banville, Book of Evidence, Malcolm Macarthur Siofra 14:44, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This page badly needs expansion

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This article simply recounts the details of the MacArthur scandal but the phrase GUBU while originating in that story came to be used in a broader sense to describe the whole period of Haughey's scandal ridden terms as Taoiseach and covered various other scandals including Haughey's election agent being arrested on personation offences.

--Gramscis cousinTalkStalk 09:45, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Article for MacArthur?

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I think it's time to revisit the question of whether there should be a separate article on Malcolm MacArthur (initially discussed above in 2006). There is this recent Guardian article, just added as a reference, based on the upcoming Mark O'Connell book. One of two books on him (and the scandal) this year that I know of:

  • Mark O'Connell (2023). A Thread of Violence: A Story of Truth, Invention, and Murder. ISBN 9780385547659.
  • Harry McGee (2023). The Murderer and the Taoiseach: Death, Politics and GUBU - Revisiting the Notorious Malcolm Macarthur Case. ISBN 9781399718608.

The two books in the same year because the trial was 40 years ago? But certainly there's renewed interest in the case/scandal and some will look to see what Wikipedia says.

Alternatively, the separate article could be the murders and connected events of that time, as they may be more notable than MacArthur himself. It was also suggested above that GUBU is/was a broader term encompassing other scandals. Could the GUBU part of this article could be retained and expanded on? There are a number of possibilities here.

And if there was to be a new article, I've seen his surname spelled variously: MacArthur, Macarthur, McArthur. Declangi (talk) 06:44, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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