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Evacuation and massacres of prrisoners

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Stutthof concentration camp had a number of subcamps in East Prussia. About 3000 of female prizoners were murdered in Palmnicken. Xx236 (talk) 08:32, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

East Prussia and Memel in the Infobox

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Only East Prussia mentioned in the lead.Xx236 (talk) 08:35, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted new map suggestion on Germany's territorial losses

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@Woogie10w: please explain why the reworked map isn't relevant here when it's almost identical to the one you reverted to?

Germany's territorial losses after World War II highlighted in green and pink

My suggestion offers better geographical context, clearer coloring and is multi-lingual (latter is irelevant here, but might lead to better quality due to more adoption).

Germany's territorial losses after World War II highlighted in green and yellow

The old map uses a projection that shrinks the northern region slightly. This together with the aggressiv color scheme makes is hard to spot Danzig.

I'm eager to learn and value you feedback to improve the suggested map. --Aeroid (talk) 06:22, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Aeriod,revert me if you want. Sowieso,das ist gehüpft wie gesprungen--Woogie 10w (talk) 12:20, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, that's a little strange, but if you suggest so...--Aeroid (talk) 17:34, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Politically Correct page name

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The word "Evacuation" is quite insulting. You could have called this page, more correctly, The Flight from East Prussia or the Expulsions in East Prussia, both of which latter headings are officially used in virtually all German Government archives. Your figures too are very questionable. Try properly reading Documents on the Expulsions of the Germans from Eastern-Central-Europe - The Expulsion of the German Population from the Territories East of the Oder-Neisse-Line vols 1&2, Editor-in-Chief Professor Theodore Schieder, Koln University, published by the Federal Ministry for Expellees, Refugees and War Victims, Bonn, Germany, 1954., or Orderly and Humane - The Expulsion of the Germans after the Second World War, by Professor R.M.Douglas, Yale University Press, 2002. The title of Douglas's book is a parody on the Western Allies demands on the Soviets & Poles. There was no civilised or well-ordered "evacuation" from the German provinces in the East and to suggest so is an insult to all those who died there. The London Daily Telegraph newspaper (12 Aug 2006) carried an article about the German "War Eviction Exhibition" that year. 2A00:23C4:B63A:1800:E527:974:948E:7282 (talk) 19:55, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You wrote Your figures too are very questionable The figures are not very questionable, they are supported by reliable sources that can be verified--Woogie 10w (talk) 20:08, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There is a very wide gulf between "flight" and "expulsion." There was a panic in East Prussia to get away from the advancing Soviet army as fast as possible. In that there was a war going on, with Soviet forces moving faster through the German lines than was thought possible originally, left the "orderly" nature of such an evacuation in the waste-bin. The expulsions all virtually happened after the end of the war, and are a separate topic.HammerFilmFan (talk) 18:58, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Completely agree.
The heading should be "The Ethnic Cleansing of East Prussia". 92.233.82.113 (talk) 16:59, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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