Talk:Edward Colston/References

List[edit]

Garrard, T. (1852). Edward Colston, the philanthropist, his life and times: Including a Memoir of his father; the result of a laborious investigation into the archives of the city. OCLC 793570135.
Wilkins, H. J. (1925). A chronological account of his life and work, together with an account of the Colston societies and memorials in Bristol. OCLC 629979568. supplement OCLC 17887906
McGrath, P. (1975). The Merchant Venturers of Bristol. Bristol: Society of Merchant Venturers. OCLC 809578509.
Morgan, Kenneth (1999). "Edward Colston and Bristol" (PDF). Local History Pamphlets. No. 96. Bristol Branch of the Historical Association. ISSN 1362-7759.
Ball, Roger. "Myths within myths…Edward Colston and that statue". Bristol Radical History Group.
Dresser, Madge (2009). "Remembering Slavery and Abolition in Bristol". Slavery & Abolition. 30 (2): 223–246. doi:10.1080/01440390902818955.
Dresser, Madge (2000). "Squares of distinction, webs of interest: Gentility, urban development and the slave trade in Bristol c.1673–1820". Slavery & Abolition. 21 (3): 21–47. doi:10.1080/01440390008575319.

News organizations[edit]

Cork, Tristan (22 July 2018). "The wording of second plaque proposed for Edward Colston statue linking him to 20,000 deaths". Bristol Post.

Discussion[edit]

Not sure age is relevant for biographical information, or for historical opinion.Slatersteven (talk) 13:35, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Going by Morgan's Bibliographic Note to begin with This is disappointing; it is written in a flowery style and fails to cite evidence for many of its assertions. feel free to change the notes. fiveby(zero) 14:00, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I thought this part was about disusing them?Slatersteven (talk) 14:11, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

heh, That's the first book on this list we got, Morgan as criticised Thomas Garrads book. Govvy (talk) 14:23, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As to local history societies and their books, if one local history society is not reliable none are.Slatersteven (talk) 14:11, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Don't see why this wouldn't be a useful source, the author looks qualified with related works. Here's some background for editors and peer review. fiveby(zero) 14:23, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Then he might pass as expert opinion.Slatersteven (talk) 14:25, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

He's a qualified academic publishing with peer review. Cited by Dresser, but i don't know in what context. Don't see any reason not consider reliable. I think if there were a conflict we should prefer journal publication, but otherwise completely usable. fiveby(zero) 14:44, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think per WP:NEWSORG Scholarly sources and high-quality non-scholarly sources are generally better than news reports for academic topics we should be careful to use certain sources only in the "Modern reappraisal" or "City-centre memorial statue" sections. fiveby(zero) 17:18, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think the top should be the list of refs, without comments or 'notes', and down here should be the discusions on each of them - a section for each. -- DeFacto (talk). 17:04, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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