Talk:Dissocial personality disorder

a critique

Wow, this article is just terrible (no offense). I just don't see the logic in sentences like this: "Psychopathy is a general construct that differs from the specific diagnoses of antisocial, psychopathic, dissocial, and sociopathic personality disorders...." Psychopathy is a subtype of psychopathy? This sentence is definitely not saying what the citation says (which just wants to clarify the differences between PCL–R psychopathy, DSM-IV APD, and ICD-10 dysPD diagnoses). This categorization schemes looks like original research to me. If you want a taxonomy you can cite, try David T. Lykken's The Antisocial Personalities. He consider antisocial personality disorder to be a broad diagnosis that can basically be split in two: psychopathy (temperamentally predisposed to antisocial behavior) and sociopathy (poorly socialized, leading to antisocial behavior). He further splits psychopathy into primary and secondary and then splits sociopathy into several subtypes as well. Millon has his subtypes of psychopathy and antisocial personality disorder that are based on the personality's comorbidity with some other personality disorder or traits thereof. The DSM-II just used sociopathic personality and broke it up into antisocial type, dyssocial type, alcoholism, and substance abuse.--NeantHumain (talk) 03:27, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps when you read these disorder descriptions where the ICD-10 mentions Dissocial personality disorder - search results: http://www.who.int/classifications/apps/icd/icd10online/?gf90.htm+f60.2 [1] and where the ICD-9 categorizes it - http://www.icd9data.com/2008/Volume1/290-319/300-316/301/301.7.htm [2], you can begin to understand why it IS difficult (from an American perspective) to take all these identical and/or overlapping pathological profiles originating from so many sources and then simplify it dramatically.

If you can take all this and rewrite it to where it is still accurate and faithful to the sources, yet is rendered with more clarity, it will be a benefit to Wiki. Spotted Owl (talk) 10:29, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

further comment - actually, personality disorders are difficult concept, being as how pathology is ascribed to the extremities of the bell-shaped curve of the normal distribution of normally occuring personality traits.. And the Cluster B PDs are exceptionally more difficult to wrap your mind around, given that you aren't just dealing with traits, but also their expression and that expressions emotional impact on others, the underlying pathological origins, and various other dimensions.

In comparison, I cannot think of any mental illness that approaches the Cluster B PDs in terms of the difficulties in comprehending the whole package. ADD/ADHD, Bipolar I & II, PTSD & CPTSD, even Schizophrenia, being mental disturbances of the brain, both physically and chemically, are much easier to understand even tho they are all still being studied thoroughly. Spotted Owl (talk) 10:49, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Causes

should ther be a section on the causes?. are they simaler or the same as the causes of anisocial personality disorder? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.97.6.98 (talk) 16:30, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]