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Godin & Jagger

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I've read the bit about Godin influencing Jagger elsewhere and know they went to the same school - but Godin was 7 years older, so how did it happen ? Or is it a myth ? Ghmyrtle 08:40, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In the book According to the Rolling Stones, Chronicle Books, 2003, ISBN 0811840603 (available in Google Books search), there are interviews with the various members of the Rolling Stones. On page 29 is this from Keith Richards: "Mick was in contact with a guy called Dave Godin, who lived up the road in Bexley Heath. He was a real collector, a great afictionado, and so we started to go round to his house. There were all these records: we just went, "Jesus Christ!". It was like a treasure trove. That was the moment you realised how much there was to explore and how much further you could delve in." The book The Rolling Stones Off the Record", by Mark Paytress (Omnibus Press) contains a letter from Brian Jones to Dave Godin, asking for tapes of various records. --Dannyno 10:31, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
They went to the same school, but perhaps not at the same time? --Dannyno 10:34, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Jagger is just over seven years younger, so the claim in Godin's Telegraph obituary that they were contempories at Dartford Grammar School must be false. Philip Cross (talk) 11:29, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
and Keith Richards notes in his autobiography (p. 81) that, when he and Mick were young, they would listen to records at the house of this guy who lived in Bexleyheath, whose name was Dave Golding. It is extremely hard to believe that there was another big soul fan who lived in Bexleyheath with a similar name. More likely that Richards has forgotten Dave's name and his ghostwriter didn't bother to check the reference. Jswba (talk) 11:32, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, needn't be false; there might have been a tiny bit of overlap, with Jagger in year one and Godin in his last year. There might possibly have been an awareness there, but it's unlikely they would have socialised, isn't it? The impression you get is that they found each other once Godin had left school. I guess you'd have used "hey, you went to my school" as an ice-breaker if you knew the older boy was into stuff you were into and you wanted to make a connection... We need more sources to be sure of what happened when. --Dannyno (talk) 15:24, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've just found this interview with Dave Godin: "It was at Dartford Grammar School, of course, that I met Mick Jagger. And introduced him to black music, I’m ashamed to say. It’s ironic that as a result of meeting me he’s where he is today......He was younger than me, lower down the school, but we continued to talk to each other after I’d left.........I went to [Mick Jagger]'s house once. He lived up a private road in a detached house and I remember his mother came home, god knows where she’d been, probably the local conservative club, and we were playing records and I clearly remember her saying, oh, I’ll leave you to it, I can’t stand these “darky” records......The last time I saw Mick Jagger, actually, I was at Ready Steady Go with Marvin Gaye and Mick Jagger came over and it was hello, mister Godin, are you going to introduce me to Marvin Gaye then, and I said, he’s over there, you can fucking introduce yourself." So, there you have it. Great interview, Godin doesn't come across as exactly the most likeable person in the world! Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:37, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]