Talk:Boys Like You (Who Is Fancy song)

Song title

Shouldn't the page title be "Boys Like You" with a captial "L"? It is spelt that way officially. Toothswing (talk) 13:37, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Release date

Could somebody please change the release date and all elements that refer to the release date (e.g. chronology for the three artists) back to the correct date of worldwide release, which is November 23rd 2015? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PsychoBaritone (talk • contribs) 20:23, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Kyle Peake (talk · contribs) 12:44, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Coming later today --Kyle Peake (talk) 12:44, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• The studio should be cited in the parameter for it instead
• WP:OVERLINK of Who Is Fancy in the infobox
• "is a song recorded by American singer" → "is a song by American singer"
• "Fancy co-wrote it with Jonathan Rotem," → "Fancy co-wrote it with J.R. Rotem,"
• "with production from J.R. Rotem." → "while the former of the three handled production."
• "released it as a single" → "released the song for digital download and streaming as a single" with the appropriate targets
• "and lyrics about Fancy," → "and lyrics about Who Is Fancy,"
• Mention the critical reception as the first sentence of the second para instead, giving that the song's title to begin the sentence though
• "and number 26 in New Zealand," → "and number 26 on the New Zealand Singles Chart," with the target
• Gold should not be capitalised and the target should solely be on that word instead
• "was released a day prior to it" → "was released a day prior to the single release, featuring the trio in animation"
• "The trio performed it" → "Who Is Fancy, Trainor and Grande performed it"
• Add what year the performed it on the show

Background and release

• "Jake Hagood met Meghan Trainor in Nashville" → "Jake Hagood met Trainor in Nashville" with the target
• Target single to Single (music)
• "Hagood wrote" → "He wrote"
• "with Jonathan Rotem, Jason Gantt" → "with J.R. Rotem, Jason Gantt"
• "with production from J.R. Rotem." → "with production being solely handled by Rotem."
• "He recorded the song" → "Who Is Fancy recorded the song"
• "with Trainor and Ariana Grande." → "with Trainor and Grande."
• "because of Fancy's enthusiastic" → "because of Who Is Fancy's enthusiastic"
• "during its recording." → "during the recording."
• "Fancy announced "Boys Like You" as" → "Who Is Fancy announced "Boys Like You" as"
• "which she also confirmed on her" → "which she subsequently confirmed on her"
• "he announced Trainor's role as a feature" → "he announced Trainor to be featured"
• "On November 12, Grande unveiled its artwork" → "On November 12, 2015, Grande unveiled the song's artwork"
• Order of formats and single statement is wrong way around
• "on November 23" → "on November 23 of that year"
• "in the United States" → "stations in the United States"

Composition

• Retitle to Composition and lyrics
• "of "Boys Like You"'s chorus," → "of the chorus of "Boys Like You"," on the audio sample text
• Sure you can't add some info about the chorus itself on the sample?
• Wikilink doo-wop to itself and target pop to Pop music
• "with lyrics about Fancy" → "with lyrics discussing Who Is Fancy" to avoid repetitive wording
• "describing it as a" → "describing the track as a"
• "charm" in which she delivers" → "charm" that sees her deliver"
• Wikilink staccato to itself
• "Grande's verse which includes" → "Grande's verse, which includes"
• "The same website's Jessica Norton described" → "Also for MTV News, Jessica Norton described"
• "and Mike Wass called it" → "and the website's Mike Wass called the song"

Reception

• "received mixed reviews from music critics." → "was met with mixed to positive reviews from music critics." with the target
• "jokingly remarked that it" → "jokingly remarked that the song"
• "ranking of Grande's discography," → "ranking of Grande's songs,"
• Italicise Vulture and target to Vulture.com per MOS:LINK2SECT
• "where it debuted at number 34 and peaked" → "debuting at number 34 and peaking"
• "certified Gold in the country" → "certified gold by Recorded Music NZ (RMNZ) for selling 7,500 units in the country" with the target
• "also reached number 18 on the US" → "further reached number 18 on the US Billboard"

• This is discouraged by WP:USCHARTS.

• [19] can be at the end of the sentence since four refs is fine
• "and numbers 47 and 89 on the" → "and number 47 and 89 on the"

Promotion

• "of Fancy, Trainor and Grande." → "of Who Is Fancy, Trainor and Grande."
• "and flirt with them" → "while flirting with them"
• Target 21st season to Dancing with the Stars (American season 21)
• "in which Fancy wore" → "for which Who Is Fancy wore"
• "Trainor and then Grande." → "Trainor, and then Grande."
• "reported that Fancy's choreographer" → "reported that Who Is Fancy's choreographer"

Credits and personnel

• Why is there no source(s)?
• Remove wikilink on piano
• Target engineering to Audio engineer

Charts

• Good

Certifications

• Switch the certtable so shipments figures is not listed at the bottom, since it is totally irrelevant to the article

Release history

• Good

References

• Nice job on the archiving!
• Copyvio score looks great at 23.1%
• Ref 1 is missing a space after Trainor,
• Ref 5 should cite numerous countries to verify the release was various and add distributors in brackets; (US), for example

• Is it fine to just change it to Google Play? Which I think has one link that works in every country.

• Yes, since that is considered reliable isn't it? --Kyle Peake (talk) 20:43, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

• Cite Vulture as work/website instead for ref 15 and target to Vulture.com
• Ref 19 and 22 are missing accessdates

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold after a review of this nice short article. --Kyle Peake (talk) 17:36, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

• Thanks for the review, I was a little cranky during our last GAN so I apologize and good to see you back haha.--NØ 18:30, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

• MaranoFan You're def on point mate, got a comment for you before this passes. --Kyle Peake (talk) 20:43, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

• Yup, Google Play is considered reliable and I've replaced iTunes with it already. The only thing confusing for me was the suggestion that Jonathan Rotem's birth name shouldn't be used, but I removed it anyway. Cheers.--NØ 02:46, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

• MaranoFan Very happy with the quick response rate from you, briefly copyedited but will now ✓ Pass. --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:18, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 18 November 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus. There is no consensus to remove the parenthetical disambiguation or to change capitalization. (non-admin closure) Vpab15 (talk) 21:43, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

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• Boys Like You (Who Is Fancy song) → Boys like You
• Boys like You → Boys like You (disambiguation)

– Per 'Pageviews Analysis', it's the only page getting any traffic. At the very least the page needs to be moved to where "Like" is lowecase. Whitevenom187 (talk) 06:55, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). —Nnadigoodluck███ 14:52, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Note: Boys like You title's a dab page with significant content and so is ineligible to be a new title in a requested move unless it is also proposed to be renamed. This request has been altered to reflect that fact. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 14:48, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

With 3 articles and 11 songs needs a case that there is a long term primary and obscuring the article title benefits readers. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:52, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

I'm not willing to make that case, but "Like" does need to be lowercased in the title per WP:NC. So, Boys Like You (Who Is Fancy song) → Boys like You (Who Is Fancy song). Whitevenom187 (talk) 10:04, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose move to Boys like You (not clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC), Support move to "Boys like You (Who Is Fancy song)" per MOS:TITLECAPS. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 14:54, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
• Keep parenthetical disambiguation to avoid recentism. Nonetheless, leaving "Like" as-is would make itself look like a verb describing an action by the "Boys". The lyrics actually use "boys like you" like object-preposition-object instead of subject-verb-object, so lowercase "like". George Ho (talk) 01:58, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support per readership usage, clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:53, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support move to "Boys Like You" - but without the lowercase L. We don't do that anymore, see Girls Like You, Be Like That (Kane Brown, Swae Lee and Khalid song), etc.--NØ 16:13, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

  We still do it; see MOS:TITLECAPS. -- JHunterJ (talk) 17:52, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

  No we don't, as evident by every "Like" entry at Category:2020 songs.--NØ 11:05, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

  Yes, we do, as evident by the guidelines rather than WP:LOCALCONSENSUS. -- JHunterJ (talk) 18:36, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose Support WP:OTHERSTUFF does not make leaving this as is the right thing to do. This song is the obvious ptopic per JHunterJ, and if other pages need to have "Like" lowercased per the guideline, then let's get busy, but let's not use them as sad examples of reasons to oppose this page move. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 11:24, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

per BD2412. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 20:48, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

• Support move to Boys like You (Who Is Fancy song) as per MOS:TITLECAPS. Hayman30 (talk) 09:00, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose any move. A longer term showing of primacy is needed to remove the disambiguator, and the verb/preposition issue is equally ambiguous irrespective of usage in the lyrics. People see the title before they see the lyrics. BD2412 T 18:17, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose removal of artist name among multiple song articles is no benefit to readers - just makes navigation more difficult. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:21, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
• So it seems that ideas are all over the place. I personally Support per JHunterJ, but for the people opposing any move, do I understand correctly that you consider all article titles of songs including the word "like" as a preposition should have it capitalized despite MOS:TITLECAPS? Whitevenom187 (talk) 16:52, 10 December 2020 (UTC) Nominator's (double) vote. George Ho (talk) 17:04, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

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