Talk:Bates & Others v Post Office Ltd

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References errors[edit]

References 2 and 4 are giving references no text errors, with no apparent actual references at all, save for a tag, such as J3. Owing to unfamiliarity with the case and reference system of subject matters IRT the UK judicial system in general, I'd likely turn the mess into a proper pig's breakfast. Can someone kindly review and correct the references accordingly? It may well be simply an error in tagging, as there is a reference J3 that doesn't exist, but there is a reference 'J3 refuse' that does.Wzrd1 (talk) 02:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. It was because an editor shifted text from British Post Office scandal without checking that the refs were complete. Southdevonian (talk) 20:47, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I'd have definitely bollocksed that up.Wzrd1 (talk) 03:34, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Counterclaim[edit]

@Southdevonian I don't think there is any evidence that the Post Office counterclaimed in the Bates action against them. The reference given quotes only the Post Office defence. The Court uses a Generic Defence and Counterclaim form, possibly form N9D, headed "Defence and Counterclaim". If there had been a a counterclaim the judge would have had to address it in one of the judgements. He doesn't in No3. I speculate and, of course, I may be wrong. This is not a quibble; if there there was a counterclaim it would be important to know that and important to know what POL were claiming for. Jacksoncowes (talk) 13:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I expect the judge was going to address it in one of at least two sub-trials that were going to take place but in the event did not because the parties reached a settlement after the first two sub-trials. Southdevonian (talk) 17:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Very interesting. I remember now reading Fraser J's remarks about there being a "whiff of other actions/litigation " or somthing like that when he criticised the PO witnesses. Their ambition to sue for fraud now makes Alisdair Cameron's evidence at the inquiry a tad more pithy. Jacksoncowes (talk) 17:43, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]