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To not merge, given that the attacks on the 29th are significant enough, and the article sufficiently well-developed, to warrant its own article. Klbrain (talk) 05:52, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So far, 29 December 2023 Russian strikes on Ukraine is the only strikes wave of dozens to have its own article. I think we should keep it all in one single article. We've previously merged such articles into here, see the redirects this article has [1]. I have a sense that users will be more than okay with breaking this consistency this time for some reason but I still think this discussion should take place. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 11:10, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
At 25k bytes I think this is too big to be merged. And if this is true that this is indeed the biggest airstrike of the war I would totally oppose a merger. Borgenland (talk) 14:04, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
dear @Super Dromaeosaurus thanks for starting the discussion. i agree it should be had. i also agree with @Borgenland and @MountainDew20. many of the much smaller airstrikes have their own articles. in late december ukrainian officials claimed 11,100 missiles and drones (not counting december 29th's attack) had been launched 12 and so the 29th's countrywide attack upped the total number flown by russia since the full-scale invasion of ukraine on february 24th 2022 by more than 1%. it makes sense to have separate articles for attacks this big. ~Johnfreez (talk) 03:45, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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thanks for continuing the discussion @Super Dromaeosaurus, @My very best wishes. i think there should be separate articles for such large attacks. at least a few things should be considered: if more people had been injured, we might not be having this discussion. 2 years into the full-scale invasion, it's very possible the number of human victims of airstrikes by russia in ukraine has decreased dramatically due to military aid that has much improved ukrainian air defense since february 22nd, 2022. also there have been plenty of articles on smaller single location airstrikes, so i recommend that we continue with separate articles on airstrikes of much larger magnitude.
more generally it seems there are a few different article scopes in time and space documenting airstrikes during the Russo-Ukrainian War:
airstrikes on single locations lasting a short period
by this logic there should be articles written on other multiple location attacks, for example the 24 February 2022 Russian strikes on Ukraine that occurred across the country, including in Donetsk, Kyiv, Kharkiv, Luhansk, Odesa, and other regions (see the invasion timeline)
on the 2nd of january, 2024 there were around 99 missiles and 35 drones fielded by russia, and fortunately a relatively low number of people victimized because of better air defense. so i suggest we have articles for such large attacks. ~ Johnfreez (talk) 09:35, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The 2 January 2024 attack does not have any distinctive feature separating it from the other dozens of attack waves that Russia has launched since October 2022, unlike the 29 December 2023 one. Its article remains short. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 10:52, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose As the lede of the article states, this is the largest airstrike carried out against Ukraine in the war so far, so this deserves a standalone article. Gödel2200 (talk) 12:28, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]