Talk:ワンダと巨像

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ワンダと巨像 -> Shadow of the Colossus. I really fail to see the utility of such redirects. Nobody, but nobody, coming to the English Wikipedia is going to enter such a thing; and of course only an extremely miniscule number will even know how to enter it, so it's not like they can type it in after they read it in a book. If we keep this (and similar ones above), we're potentially going to have tens of thousands of these redirects, in native scripts that most editors can't even read (i.e. cannot check that they are correct). They are absolutely useless in the English Wikipedia (I have no problem with native scripts in articles, mind). Noel (talk) 15:39, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, this is the real name of a Japanese product. It's quite possible that a bilingual user would want to find this in the English wikipedia but not know the English name. Note that it's given right at the beginning of the article, if it's "uncheckable" it should be removed from that as well. I think a google test will do just fine for checking even if editors cannot read Japanese. Kappa 10:55, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  - Can't a bilingual user just use the Japanese wikipedia and follow the language interwiki? --cesarb 01:16, 3 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    - This article doesn't have a page in the Japanese wikipeda, and not all users will have access to both language versions. Kappa 13:27, 3 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    - So, they are going to decide that since there wasn't an article on this in their native-language encyclopaedia, it is worth looking for an article with that Japanese title on the English Wikipedia? Somehow, this doesn't seem likely. Noel (talk) 17:07, 3 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      - They might not know the English title. Kappa 14:40, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      - You seem to have missed my point completely. Why would they even bother looking here?
        And if we add the Japanese title for this one, why not add the Japanese titles for all our articles which aren't on the Japanese Wikipedia - for the exact same reason as you're arguing to keep this one (because, heck, they might come here looking for an article on that topic, and not know the English name)? Heck, why restrict it to Japanese? Why not add the titles in Russian, Urdu, French, Swahili, Spanish, Tagalog, etc, etc, etc ad infinitum? Noel (talk) 19:32, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
        Why would they bother looking here? Because they think en.wikipedia might have an article, and they'd be right. Also they might read English better than Japanese. This is the name of a Japanese thing, so a redirect from Japanese is not the same as a redirect from Swahili or Tagalog. Kappa 13:19, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- considering the number of articles not written with english characters, that's not a very becoming statement. Ofcourse the fact that so many articles are written with non-English characters is concerning, since how many people know how to enter accents? But the fact that people can enter them, shouldn't every page about something with non English characters automatically have a non-English redirector? (say... Junichiro Koizumi, or Al-Jazeera...) I never understood the policy banning non English redirectors, since it never made any sense. 132.205.44.43 15:05, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. I'm all for more cross-writing-system mutual support, and as a Unicode buff belong to the group of folks who could enter a search for such a title. But one does need to draw a line somewhere. --IslandGyrl 23:06, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  - Can't you draw the line somewhere that does exclude redirects from things real names? Kappa 17:27, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]