Talk:Ōkami Kakushi

Feb '10 release for manga?

Well, I did a quick Google for the manga adaption of this game, and I found a chapter already available on the scanlation site Manga Helper. What's more, the prelude chapter was uploaded as early as December 2009. Would this be some kind of typo/error? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.100.81.169 (talk) 09:39, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

It's the February 2010 issues, as stated in the article. The magazine's cover dates are usually different from the sale dates (in this case, the February 2010 issue of Dengeki Daioh was sold in late December 2009). If you look on the last page of the prelude, it clearly states the manga in Dengeki Daioh began serialization in the February 2010 issue.--十八 20:10, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Are the manga directly based off the game (as in, do they tell the same story of the game) or do they revolve around other characters in the story than Hiroshi, alternate storylines, prequels, sequels, or backstories? 142.26.194.190 (talk) 18:52, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Romaji name?

Seeing the original name is おおかみかくし and not おうかみかくし, doesn't that mean it should be rendered as "Ookami Kakushi" rather than "Ōkami Kakushi"? PS4FA (talk) 09:59, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Long O, whether おお or おう are both romanized as Ō in revised Hepburn romanization, which WP:MOS-JP uses.--十八 10:12, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Should "Ōkami Kakushi" be "Ōkamikakushi" instead, given that it's a wordplay on kamikakushi? -97.125.118.99 (talk) 02:13, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

We should avoid using letters as such like Ō in the title. Although the name could stay the same within the article.Bread Ninja (talk) 17:36, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

WP:MOS-JP says nothing like that. While I am aware of the "special characters" rule in article titles, macrons do not apply, as I have never seen any opposition to their usage in article titles, and indeed, the article title should generally be consistent with the content in the article unless we're talking about special characters.--十八 19:51, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Well that's because i wasn't going by WP:MOS-JP. I was going by naming conventions. The problem about using macrons, is that it's much more of a hassle of typing in because normal north American and European keyboards don't have them automatically, you have to insert them a different way. Just like Terra (group) is spelled Terra in the title even though the official name is TЁЯRA.Bread Ninja (talk) 15:45, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Another option is adding redirects.Bread Ninja (talk) 15:49, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

The redirects have already been created: Ookami Kakushi, Okami Kakushi, Ookamikakushi, Okamikakushi. And, like I said, just using macrons in titles has never been a problem in any article I've ever worked on; in fact, I've seen more articles moved to macroned article titles than not when this applies. That Terra example is a special one, since it doesn't even use macrons.--十八 19:04, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Juhachi, macrons is merely one example out of the whole point. macrons arent in standard keyboards, that includes macrons and Diaeresis and any letter that's not in standard English keyboard. that is why they say to avoid non standard keyboard keys in the title.Bread Ninja (talk) 16:31, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Also, i don't think the redirects with two O's is really helpful.Bread Ninja (talk) 16:44, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

When the ones with two Os are used, then they are helpful, actually. And since the title is originally spelled with two Os, that should be a logical redirect. Finally, I think no more can be said here, so if you really want to continue with the discussion, bring it up at WT:JP or WP:VP or something like that; we're getting no where talking about it here.--十八 06:25, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

The two O redirects seem quite useful to me, since that's how the title is being romanized in various places and one of them was what I searched for when I was looking for this page. modargo (talk) 15:35, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

I've seen "Ōkami Kakushi" translated as Wolfed Away (as is used in the article), Hidden Wolf, and Hidden God. Given the game/anime's subject, I'd say that Hidden Wolf makes the most sense. What say you? 142.26.194.190 (talk) 19:46, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Is that All?

Shouldnt we have more information ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.158.89.183 (talk) 23:39, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia takes time and effort to improve articles. Please do not hesitate to make the article better.--十八 23:55, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Seems to me that the best source of information on Ōkami Kakushi is the anime. Episode 7 confirmed that Nemuru, Isuzu, etc. are werewolves, so we could add that in somewhere. 75.157.110.77 (talk) 16:37, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Episode Summaries

I know this will likely be deleated beause it's in the wrong section, but I seem to be the only person visiting the list of Ōkami Kakushi episodes page. I wrote the original summary for episode 6, but what about episodes 2,3,4,5, and 7? They need summaries too, and I don't have the time to watch and summarize them to Wikipedia standards. If possible, could this project be undertaken. 142.26.194.190 (talk) 19:52, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Increase the Characters Count

Issei should get his own section rather than being solely referenced in Isuzu's, and Sakaki (don't know whether that's his first or last name or what his full name is), who's a major antagonist, should be put in. 75.157.110.77 (talk) 14:57, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Werewolves?

Is there any conformation that some of the characters are actually werewolves (humans that transform into wolves or a wolf-like creature)? The anime series so far only states that some of the characters are "Joga wolves". But so far, no one has transformed into wolves or a wolf-like creature. Its still unclear whether they are real wolves or if the wolf motif is a metaphor to describe their condition. It also been state that these characters are gods that are indistinguishable from normal humans except they have a cursed fate and are unable to control certain impulses. —Farix (t | c) 13:47, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Glowing red eyes with slitted pupils coupled with a psychotic rage and an uncontrollable desire to pass on the curse, anyone? Most of the time werewolves are "indistinguishable from normal humans except they have a cursed fate and are unable to control certain impulses", as you eloquently put it, except during the full moon. Coincidentally, Joga's moon is always full. Oh, and there's the fact that werewolves are humans that can turn into wolves or vice versa. I think one of Issei's nightmares in an earlier episode, either where the first or second person was killed, involved a metamorphosis, and come on, Nemuru and her now ex-minions have tails in her Hunter modes, and the minions even run on all fours. Kaname's book of Joga's legends refers to mysterious howling heard in the middle of the night. Add to that that Ōkami means both god and wolf (it was used as a pun in the game of the same name), so the "god" could be a mistranslation, a misinterpretation on the part of the viewer, or even deliberately, in-universe, the person being spoken to. Kaname says that, based on her research, they are "just like werewolves", which is augmented by Nemuru's statement "We are Joga wolves", they fit the bill for being werewolves. By the way, in case you try to argue that a werewolf is only a human-> wolf, Howling Mad has the wolf-turned-human werewolf, and since Numuru, Isuzu, et al. were probably born human, and not to mention the normal humans infected by the curse, they pretty much quallify as the average variety of werewolf. Plus, depending entirely on where you look, there's different degrees of transformation, ranging from berserker human with rabies and superhuman strength to turning from a into a normal wolf. Let's just say that this is how Konami and Peach-Pit reinterpretated the myth of the werewolf in an original fashion while mixing in a decent helping of slasher horror (kudos to Nemuru's moon-themed oversized scythe) and psychological thriller (kudos to Hiroshi "PSTD" Kuzumi and Isuzu "Yandere" Tsumuhana). 75.157.110.77 (talk) 13:01, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

All of this is entirely conjecture and speculation. It is not verifiable at this point. —Farix (t | c) 22:53, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Kaname says they're werewolves, and so does Nemuru. 75.157.110.77 (talk) 02:12, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Depends very much on the fansub you are referring. The version I watch never used the term werewolf. —Farix (t | c) 03:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I guess it's a case of wait and see. I'd say it's obvious what with the demonic transformations at the full moon and constant wolf motif, but that's my interpretation, and like I said we'll have to wait and see what goes on in the anime. Granted, playing the game would tell-all, but it's Japan only. Jury's out for now on this. Truce? 75.157.110.77 (talk) 06:26, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

It looks like the citzens of Old Joga, (the kamibito) really are wolves in the shape of humans, if the Counting Rhyme is anything to go by. 75.157.110.77 (talk) 18:57, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Plot Dump

Farix, what was your interpretation of the plot dump in episode 9? All that I got out of it is that the humans are actually the "gods" and the "Fallen" are the humans like Hiroshi who tempt the Joga wolves with their scent. I guess the system is arranged into "gods" (normal humans and Joga wolves) and "Fallen" (temptations and psycho-wolves), but that's just speculation. I didn't understand much of it, but it's obviously important to the plot of the story and could provide useful information for the article. 75.157.110.77 (talk) 07:24, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Is it Over?

I read somewhere that 12 was the last episode? Is that really true? If so, it should be added into the list of episodes article. 142.26.194.190 (talk) 18:07, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Overhaul

The page needs an overhaul. More information is needed, both from the game and the anime. 173.180.64.146 (talk) 09:45, 25 August 2010 (UTC)