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This page was proposed for deletion by an editor on 30 April 2014.

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Economy, GDP?

I know that East Ukraine was/is the most industrialized part of Ukraine. Granted I don't know how much anymore since the government shellings. But what is the region producing? Are they still producing minerals or machines? Are they still exporting to within Ukraine or to outside of Ukraine?

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Article's name

Shouldn't "Lugansk" (Луга́нск) be the exact transliteration?--Mhorg (talk) 23:51, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Due official language of the republic is Russian I think officials of the republic call it Lugansk PR instead Luhansk PR. DrYisus (talk) 01:07, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - You can propose a page rename/ move to allow the community to further discuss and come to a consensus - DownTownRich (talk) 16:49, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"terrorist" citation

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i have a citation for the claim "designated as a terrorist organisation in Ukraine" in the intro: https://twitter.com/ukremblondon/status/885905300624211969 Embassy of Ukraine to the UK: "This case should send a strong message to all those who are considering joining the pro-Russian DNR/LNR terrorist organizations in #Ukraine" Malarisi (talk) 18:11, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Going to a need more formal document than that. Also, calling a group a terrorist organisation is not the same as designating a group one; the latter is typically a legally defined category. CentreLeftRight ✉ 06:24, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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it says internationally recognized with the exception of russia, should be changed to internationally unrecognized with the exception of russia 97.108.248.154 (talk) 00:08, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The sentence read in full is accurate: "It is located in Luhansk Oblast in the Donbas region, a territory internationally recognised, with the exception of the Russian Federation, to be a part of Ukraine." CentreLeftRight ✉ 06:22, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The map of the Donetsk People's Republic

The map of this self proclaimed nation is misleading because of the fact that all the territory that they have now was gained during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. Maybe just add a bit saying that the territory controlled by them was gained in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. 2601:681:0:7DB0:1E9:A3F1:DE5C:E81E (talk) 01:43, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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This page on Luhansk, Ukraine; reflects Putin's opinion that the area is an independent state and even gave Luhansk a new flag. Please change it back to whatever it originally was in terms of being part of Ukraine. 2601:240:4000:7600:F49C:2450:FF94:328D (talk) 07:05, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not done. This article is about the political entity. You might be looking for Luhansk Oblast. — Czello 07:54, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 2 May 2022

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. (non-admin closure) Adumbrativus (talk) 05:16, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Luhansk People's Republic → Lugansk People's Republic – Re-proposing to change "Luhansk" in the title of this article to "Lugansk" as per WP:RUSSIANNAMES. The name of the Lugansk People's Republic is a Russian name, and it's English translation should be taken from Russian. While it may be appropriate to have Luhansk and Luhansk Oblast using Ukrainian transliterations due to their de-jure status as parts of Ukraine, the LPR is an entity which exists as a rejection of Ukraine and has used Russian as it's only official language since 2020, and it should be transliterated as Lugansk. Serafart (talk) (contributions) 02:08, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fully agree to make the name change. Currently there is already an article with that name and I cannot move the page. I'm not familiar with these things.--Mhorg (talk) 11:06, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No opinion but the opening argument is invalid. The entity undoubtedly has a WP:COMMONNAME. One should investigate what name is this. Romanization (not transliteration) only applies to the situations when there is no COMMONNAME.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:36, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose “De jure status” and the “official” language of a Russian proxy have nothing to do with it, but the LNR is de jure in Ukraine whose de jure official language is Ukrainian. RUSSIANNAMES is not a guideline, it doesn’t say that all Russian names are to be romanized (hello, “Moscow”), and neither Luhansk nor the LNR are Russian: they are in Ukraine, named after the Luhan river wholly in Ukraine, likely from the Ukrainian root луг, luh, “meadow.” The rationale is completely invalid and unrelated to Wikipedia guidelines. But that is all academic: an actual relevant guideline is WP:COMMONNAME, and a Google Books Ngram shows that the current title is used 2.7 times more in sources. —Michael Z. 15:43, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per common name arguments above—blindlynx 16:43, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. As mentioned, "Luhansk People's Republic" seems to be the common name. And I usually see it at written as this in English-language sources rather than "Lugansk People's Republic". Mellk (talk) 17:07, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Very clear common name in English-language sources. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:54, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose very clear WP:COMMONNAME in English sources. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 03:58, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. — Czello 21:34, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Google Ngrams Additionally, since 2019, the 'luhansk' variation is most likely if anything grown in use in english sources. Cononsense (talk) 17:04, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Mirovalev's article

The article is refenced twice, I believe it deserves more place here.Xx236 (talk) 19:35, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]