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WP:AWB/CP gnoming

I noticed that your bot has not edited WP:AWB/CP since March. Intentional or did something get switched off? Primefac (talk) 16:40, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Ahh, the one bot task that made queries to multiple databases... This functionality broke recently due to wikitech:News/Wiki Replicas 2020 Redesign. I should be able to push out a fix this week. I see from the error log the bot has been complaining since April 1. I should probably set up some sort of notification system for this! — MusikAnimal ^talk 04:08, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Primefac (talk) 10:37, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

@Primefac Okay, fixed now :) Sorry for the long downtime! For the record, I hadn't forgot about this since I replied 8 days ago, I was just waiting for the bot to run on its own after I pushed a fix. Of course Thursday went by and it errored out again, and after some debugging the new schedule is around now on Fridays (UTC).

By the way, I am watching phab:T241196 and it seems there's no progress there yet. I'd rather wait until we are fully migrated to the JSON page instead of having the bot monitor two places. I suppose it wouldn't be hard to make the bot sync the contents of the old CheckPage to the new one, though; but that's assuming no one will attempt to edit the new one and not the old one (or else such changes would be lost). If you have any opinions, do share. Otherwise I'll just wait it out, for now. — MusikAnimal ^talk 04:32, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

I should probably set up some sort of notification system for this! See Wikipedia:Bot activity monitor. – SD0001 (talk) 12:40, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-21

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The Wikimedia movement has been using IRC on a network called Freenode. There have been changes around who is in control of the network. The Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts have decided to move to the new Libera Chat network instead. This is not a formal decision for the movement to move all channels but most Wikimedia IRC channels will probably leave Freenode. There is a migration guide and ongoing Wikimedia discussions about this.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 May. It will be on all wikis from 27 May (calendar).

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17:05, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

scriptManager

Please could you allow scriptManager to turn on scripts until they are turned off. For example, you could turn on RedWarn, revert some vandalism, then turn off RedWarn. ― Qwerfjkl | 𝕋𝔸𝕃𝕂  (please use {{reply to|Qwerfjkl}} on reply)Template:Z181 20:36, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

@Qwerfjkl I don't think this would work. By "enabling" a script, you are downloading it and executing it. You can't un-download or programmatically undo whatever the script did. The solution is to simply reload the page. — MusikAnimal ^talk 20:59, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

@MusikAnimal: Sorry, to clarify: You load the script on every page until you turn it off. ― Qwerfjkl | 𝕋𝔸𝕃𝕂  (please use {{reply to|Qwerfjkl}} on reply)Template:Z181 21:01, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Ah, I see. That is certainly possible, but scriptManager might as well enable the script via your common.js, much like Script Installer does. I'll try to look into this when time allows. It will require some UI changes. — MusikAnimal ^talk 18:26, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! ― Qwerfjkl | 𝕋𝔸𝕃𝕂  (please use {{reply to|Qwerfjkl}} on reply)Template:Z181 19:43, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 22, 2021)

A trench digger being used in Baku, Azerbaijan Hello, MusikAnimal. The article for improvement of the week is: Trench Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Pork chop • Desktop computer Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 31 May 2021 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI •

Tech News: 2021-22

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Problems

• There was an issue on the Vector skin with the text size of categories and notices under the page title. It was fixed last Monday. [1]

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• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

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17:04, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

scriptManager

The "Enable scripts" group appears at the bottom of the entire page in responsive Monobook (select the Monobook skin if you haven't already and zoom in until the left toolbar disappears, or load a page with the skin on your phone. Note: the user preference for the responsive skin might not be set; it is selectable in the "appearance" section). It should be displayed in the "tools" section, i.e. the button on the very right of the second line. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:22, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Generating a notification just in case you missed my comment, since you have recently been replying to a section with the same title and by a user with a coincidentally relatively similar username. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:37, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 21

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past four months (February through May 2021).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 21st issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Scripts Submit your new/improved script here

New scripts

• Alexander Davronov's HistoryHelper helps to copy diff links from the history display of a page
• Aseleste's Purger makes it easier to purge or null edit a page
• Awesome Aasim:
  • CatMan adds a category manager to simplify interactions for adding and removing the categories of a page
  • redirectcreator allows for easy creation of multiple redirects
• Bop34's EasyDesc adds a link to the top navigation bar which allows you to add a short description without opening the edit menu
• BrandonXLF's NullEdit adds a portlet link to perform a null edit on a page
• Chlod:
  • FoldArchives collapses archived talk page threads in order to reduce screen space
  • GoToTitle converts the page title into an input field for navigating to other pages
  • UserHighlighter adds highlighting to links to the userpages, talk pages, and contributions of administrators and other user groups as well as tooltips to indicate which groups a user is in
• GhostInTheMachine:
  • NoEditSummary adds a warning if an edit will be saved without an edit summary
  • SortWhatLinksHere sorts the links shows on Special:WhatLinksHere
  • WatchlistTidy moves the "new updates found" timestamp block from the bottom of the filter block to the top of the filter area on the watchlist
• GorillaWarfare's curlies simplifies converting curly quotes to straight quotes while in the source editing mode
• Nardog:
  • AutoSectionLink corrects the /* section link */ every time you hit "Show changes"
  • AutoTestcases autofills "Preview page with this template/module" with the most relevant /testcases page that exists
  • SortCentralAuthByEditCount sorts the list of local accounts on CentralAuth by edit count
• Novem Linguae:
  • CiteHighlighter highlights 1800 sources green, yellow, or red depending on reliability.
  • NPPLinks adds WP:BEFORE Google search links, copyvio check, duplicate article check, and other links to the left menu.
• Ritenerek's goce_nav adds a link to Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors to the navigation menu
• Suffusion of Yellow:
  • filterDiff: Adds a "Show changes" button to the filter editor.
  • filterNotes: Parses filter notes as wikitext (so links are clickable), and signs and dates new comments for you.
  • filterTest: Adds a "Test changes" button. Opens Special:AbuseFilter/test with what's currently in the edit form, not with what's saved in the database, so you don't have to copy-paste your changes.
• Terasail's COI Request Tool allows users to reply to, close or remove conflict of interest edit requests

Updated scripts

• Twinkle has a number of improvements, including that most watchlist defaults now make use of the new temporary watchlist feature. Other changes include rollbacks treating consecutive IPv6 editors in the same /64 range as the same user, adding a preview for shared IP tagging, a preference for watching users after CSD notification, and for sysops, the ability to block the /64 and link to a WP:RfPP request, and new copyright blocks default to indefinite.
• Wikipedia:Shortdesc helper now v3.4.17, changes include minor fixes and preventing edits that don't change the description.
• BrandonXLF's CitationStyleMarker now recognizes WP:CSLSA and WP:CSVAN styles, in addition to WP:CS1 and WP:CS2
• Joeytje50's JWB now version 4.1.0, includes the ability to generate page lists from the search tool, major updates to the handling of regular expressions, the storing of user settings, the addition of upload protection, and an option to skip pages that belong to a specific category, among other changes. See User:Joeytje50/JWB/Changelog for a full list of recent changes.
• User:SD0001/deleted-metadata-link.js – updated to include a link to snippet of deleted content, instead of just metadata.

Miscellaneous

• Wikipedia:User scripts/List has been revamped to make it easier to find scripts suited for your needs. If you know of a cool script that is missing on the list, or a script on the list that is no longer working, please edit the list or let us know on the talk page.

Pending requests

• A request for a script to help admins posting "recent death" items to Template:In the news
• A request for a script to warn users about syntax and template errors
• ...and many more, all available at Wikipedia:User scripts/Requests

My apologies for this long-overdue issue, and if I missed any scripts.
Hopefully going forward we can go back to monthly releases - any help would be appreciated. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 13:04, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

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Invitation for Functionary consultation 2021

Greetings,

I'm letting you know in advance about a meeting I'd like to invite you to regarding the Universal Code of Conduct and the community's ownership of its future enforcement. I'm still in the process of putting together the details, but I wanted to share the date with you: 27 June, 2021. I do not have a time on this date yet, but I will let you soon. We have created a meta page with basic information. Please take a look at the meta page and sign up your name under the appropriate section.

Thank you for your time.--BAnand (WMF) 15:06, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

New message from Qwerfjkl

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation § AFCH script error. (Concerning scriptManager.) ― Qwerfjkl | 𝕋𝔸𝕃𝕂  (please use {{reply to|Qwerfjkl}} on reply)Template:Z181 19:42, 2 June 2021 (UTC)Template:Z48

Regarding this bug you closed

[https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T283012] I think there is a misunderstsanding. You are right that examples you cite are fine - but only up to a point. The issue concerns what happens when a redirect is overwritten by a moved-in the article (and hence deleted in the process). The "correct" examples you cite which have two entries on my article creation lists are for articles I created, and for redirects I also created to them, then the article was renamed and moved over my own redirect.

This is a bit different and more confusing for example for entries "Mary Lowell Putnam", "German–Polish declaration of non-aggression" and "Privacy concerns with Facebook" (from my list at [https://xtools.wmflabs.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/Piotrus]). What happened is that I created redirects, but not the main articles. Then my redirects were deleted as the main article was moved in their spot. So the current tags deleted/recreated are both correct and not, and the listing is weird - since it shows a blue link to an article that nonetheless has no assessment. In particular, this is an error as it implies I am the creator of those articles (but I am not).

Looking at the top of the tool I see that it states that the results are supposed to "Redirects Exclude redirects" but clearly this fails when we are dealing with former redirects. This results in deleted redirects being listed, either duplicating my own creations or worse, adding entries for articles I DID NOT create.

So solution one would be to exclude them, per the exclude redirects assumption, solution two would be to label this more correctly. I think solution one is what we want here?

Please let me know if I clarified this better? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:52, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

@Piotrus Yes you clarified this better, thank you. However as far as I can tell this is still expected behaviour. The issue is we can't reliably tell if deleted pages were redirects. More info at mw:XTools/Pages Created#Common issues. The relevant bug is phab:T182183, but it probably can't be resolved until MediaWiki has a proper log of the creation of redirects (phab:T240065). We don't show an assessment because these entries refer to a deleted page (even though it has since been recreated) -- and similarly we can't tell what the assessment was of a deleted page. Does that make sense? I realize this isn't ideal; it's just an unfortunate caveat in MediaWiki. — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:12, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining this. If it can't be solved reliably given existing infrastructure, oh well. My only idea is to adding a footnote somewhere that due to this bug the list can contain errors and overestimate the number of creations a bit. Speaking as a scholar who sometimes uses such tools to populate data in models, knowing about this error would be useful. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:23, 5 June 2021 (UTC)