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Ad received criticism from "right-wing" sources, but then lost $8 Bil in revenues. Yes, that's how many far right media personalities there are. That makes no sense. [[User:Historiaantiqua|Historiaantiqua]] ([[User talk:Historiaantiqua|talk]]) 02:13, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
Ad received criticism from "right-wing" sources, but then lost $8 Bil in revenues. Yes, that's how many far right media personalities there are. That makes no sense. [[User:Historiaantiqua|Historiaantiqua]] ([[User talk:Historiaantiqua|talk]]) 02:13, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

== Operations in Canada ==

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Hello! Erin here with the public relations firm Ketchum Inc. I've created this account to suggest improvements to Wikipedia articles related to my work, starting with the Gillette entry. Given my conflict of interest, I'll suggest improvements here for other editors to review.

I'd like to focus on the [[Gillette#Canadian_headquarters|Canadian headquarters]] section, which until very recently was entirely unsourced. I noticed the recently added source is helpful for confirming a few things about the company's operations in Canada, but does not quite verify the specific text within the article. I've drafted replacement text for this section, which more accurately reflects news sources:

:In late 1988, Gillette announced plans to eliminate Gillette Canada Inc.'s manufacturing operations in Montreal and Toronto. The Canadian unit's executive offices remained in Montreal, with administrative, distribution, marketing, and sales operations continuing in both cities. Approximately 600 employees in Canada were laid off as part of the global restructure,<ref>{{cite news |title=Gillette Plans to Phase Out Canada Plants |url=https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1988-11-24-8802190240-story.html |accessdate=October 22, 2020 |work=[[Chicago Tribune]] |date=November 24, 1988}}</ref> which followed a $720 million [[share repurchase]] and sought to "rationalize worldwide production".<ref name="Burns">{{cite news |last1=Burns |first1=John F. |title=Canada Girds for Action on Trade Bill |url=https://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/24/world/canada-girds-for-action-on-trade-bill.html |accessdate=October 22, 2020 |work=[[The New York Times]] |date=November 24, 1988}}</ref>

:As of 2005, Gillette was not producing products in Canada and employed approximately 200 people in Edmonton, Mississauga, and Montreal.<ref>{{cite news |title=P&G cuts mega-deal with Gillette |url=https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/pg-cuts-mega-deal-with-gillette/article4114805/ |accessdate=October 29, 2020 |work=[[The Globe and Mail]] |date=January 29, 2005 |first1=Barrie|last1=McKenna |first2=Virginia |last2=Galt}}</ref>

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The text is not about "headquarters" specifically, so I propose changing the section title from "Canadian headquarters" to "Operations in Canada".

Can editors please review and update the page since I cannot? Thank you! [[User:EA.Ketchum|EA.Ketchum]] ([[User talk:EA.Ketchum|talk]]) 21:34, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Revision as of 21:34, 5 November 2020

Template:Findnote

Correction to Fusion FlexBall

In 2014 the Fusion FlexBall Razor was introduced, and is not a blade or cartridge related change; it's a new razor handle and cartridge holder at the top, allowing the cartridge to move on more than one axis. Gillette claims the Fusion FlexBall provides greater blade contact while shaving. The original cartridge for the Fusion FlexBall was the previously available Fusion ProGlide that has thinner blades than the original Fusion. The Fusion FlexBall is available in manual and power versions, like the standard Fusion razor, with Gillette claiming the power version helps reduce friction and increase razor glide. The Fusion ProShield is Gillette's most recent 5 blade cartridge, with a second lubricating strip at the bottom of the blades. All Fusion blades are compatible with all Fusion razors.2601:402:4301:2857:558B:21AA:E7F:14AC (talk) 08:27, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@2601:402:4301:2857:558B:21AA:E7F:14AC, thank you for taking your time to bring it up here, the Gillette Fusion Flexball is officially called the "Fusion Proglide Razor with Flexball Technology" on their website and advertisements. We call it "Fusion Proglide Flexball" to make the product name more simpler to call it. In fact, it was redesigned from the original Proglide razor to include the Flexball technology. Perhaps, you can add the information in the products section where it mentions the Gillette Fusion razors. Kevinmuniz115 (talk) 21:28, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 26 November 2016

Can somebody change the Start date and age template from {start date and age|1901} to {start date and age|1901|9|28} to correspond to Gillette's foundation?

Source(s):
https://books.google.com/books?id=6C59BAAAQBAJ&pg=PA164&lpg=PA164&dq=Gillette+(brand)+founded+September+28,+1901&source=bl&ots=QX4OpJz5yj&sig=j5zOJoNqscD1QOLS6MymVRXoK9I&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjYtu-ersXQAhXD6IMKHWS8Aa4Q6AEILTAD#v=onepage&q=Gillette%20(brand)%20founded%20September%2028%2C%201901&f=false 

173.73.227.128 (talk) 02:22, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Done -- Dane2007 talk 03:43, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Requested move 3 December 2016

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: move as proposed. Consensus is that the brand is the primary topic. Editors can add hatnotes to Gillete as necessary to point to the disambiguation page, and the stadium of the same name. (non-admin closure) Bradv 23:19, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

– The Proctor & Gamble brand is far and away the primary topic for the term Gillette. It clearly gets more than two-thirds of all page views of all Gillette articles on Wikipedia [1]. Calidum ¤ 03:55, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose absurd primarytopic grab. Dicklyon (talk) 06:20, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Absurd or not, the stats support this claim for PT. Zarcadia (talk) 06:41, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose @Zarcadia: but don't see anything to support the second half of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. And there are multiple Gillette company/brand related subjects. Which one if any is absolute majority subject? The company? The brand? In ictu oculi (talk) 09:13, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Unreal7 (talk) 10:19, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 11:21, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: clearly meets WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and the page views data supports as well. Ebonelm (talk) 11:29, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per logic of opposers above, many other topics and pages have a claim to this name. Randy Kryn 21:12, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose since both I don't see any primary topic, and "Gillette" is easily a common misspelling for "Jillette". Steel1943 (talk) 23:07, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. When people are typing in "Gillette", they appear to mostly be wanting this article. No reason to add another step in reader's travels. Nohomersryan (talk) 02:15, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Sensible primarytopic assignment. Dohn joe (talk) 02:29, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as the brand/company gets more hits than all other gillette articles combined, apart from Gillette Stadium: [2]. Doing a UK then a USA Google search, and the first page shows results for the brand/company, after which it dissipates into various results. Interestingly the Wikipedia article that Google delivers for "gillette" is Gillette (brand), which is a strong indicator that is the one that folks want. While Gillette Stadium gets more hits than all other gillette articles, I don't see any potential confusion, as those looking for the stadium appear to not be using "gillette" as a shortcut term, but are including "stadium" in their search, however, when setting up a hatnote on the moved Gillette page, it might be helpful to point readers both to the disamb page and to the stadium article. SilkTork ✔Tea time 12:44, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

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Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2018

Gillette stadium is hope of New England Patriots nfl team 71.161.214.1 (talk) 15:12, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
Please request your change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:22, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"including right-wing propaganda" -- wrong citation

I see no benefit in making this fraction of critics explicit as "right-wing", nor do I know who is meant by that; it's opinion, and has no place in an encyclopedia. The wrong citation, that also has a different title, does not support the claim it decorates.

Please keep your politics and personal beef out of WP, and remove the meaningless phrase and its false citation! 2A02:810D:9440:7514:F873:26A9:B3D7:EB6E (talk) 00:09, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Funny, its been a long time since Wikipedia has been an objective source.

"The Best Men Can Be"

The "The Best Men Can Be" campaign has received significant coverage, so I've forked content over to The Best Men Can Be. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:58, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Gillette is a far-left extremist propaganda organization just like Nike, Google, Apple, and Dick's Sporting Goods. You shouldn't siphon off critical information into a separate article just because your corporate overlords don't want bad press. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haulreal (talk • contribs) 10:54, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Seems a classic case of Wikipedia:Recentism to me. ♫ RichardWeiss talk contribs 11:29, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No idea what you're talking about... ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:59, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The Article makes no mention of the widespread negative reaction to what was believed by many to be an "anti-men" ad campaign. There are rumblings of a boycott, and some on the "right wing" are claiming that sales are down as a result. The brief search I just made indicates the exact opposite is being reported; that sales are NOT down as a result of the "toxic masculinity" ad campaign, and that Gillette's problems are the result of increasing competition with other manufacturers. One statement in an RS said something like "...if a man just bought a 12 pack of razors, we might not see whether or not he buys again for another year...", implying that razors are purchased infrequently and the effect of a boycott has a certain amount of lag before it can be measured. So, long story short, those expecting to see mention of this boycott in the Article are not seeing it due to the fact that RS is not reporting it, as far as I can tell.Tym Whittier (talk) 16:40, 27 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
what little content is left here could use some work though. Like the quote on the number of men and women on the board of directos, the way its presented just seems totally out of the blue and something they'd say on a daily basis as part of PR, rather than in any way directed at the controversy, and in no way definitive enough to be the closing statement on that section, rather than appearing on the separate article. Surely the source it was taken from had more info on why it's relevant? Cause the way it is now I'd just delete it and let the separate article handle it.

78.30.17.12 (talk) 17:39, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

History section

I just added a History section to the article. It's a translation from the Finnish article's history section (which is also my work) with minor changes and improvements. It's been more than a year since I've last expanded the history section and I've mostly lost interest in it, so I decided to bring what I currently have to the English Wikipedia.

It currently covers the company history from the early 1900s to the 1980s, mostly based on McKibben's 1998 book. I lost interest in writing more as I got to the takeover attempt era, which the book covers in great detail. While a lot of the book is about the takeover attempts, it still has some other things to offer, such as Gillette's entry to various markets in the 1990s (Russia, India, China). I've probably also missed some things since the book isn't entirely chronological.

Even as it is, the History section is a bit long. But then again, Gillette as a company/brand is over 100 years old, so there's plenty of things to cover. There's certainly enough source material to write an entirely separate article about the history of Gillette, if one was so inclined. It took some doing to shorten the history to where it is now, and some interesting details have already been left out.

Other than expansion, the section could be improved with additional sources. While some things are only available in McKibben's book (since he had access to Gillette's interal documents and archives when writing it), many events should also be covered in old newspapers, if nothing else. The book "King C. Gillette, The Man and His Wonderful Shaving Device" (currently listed in the Further reading section) could also be used as a source for many things, and is something McKibben used for his book as well.

English also isn't my native language, so there may be some room for grammar improvement in the prose. --Veikk0.ma 19:30, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism

Ad received criticism from "right-wing" sources, but then lost $8 Bil in revenues. Yes, that's how many far right media personalities there are. That makes no sense. Historiaantiqua (talk) 02:13, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Operations in Canada

Hello! Erin here with the public relations firm Ketchum Inc. I've created this account to suggest improvements to Wikipedia articles related to my work, starting with the Gillette entry. Given my conflict of interest, I'll suggest improvements here for other editors to review.

I'd like to focus on the Canadian headquarters section, which until very recently was entirely unsourced. I noticed the recently added source is helpful for confirming a few things about the company's operations in Canada, but does not quite verify the specific text within the article. I've drafted replacement text for this section, which more accurately reflects news sources:

In late 1988, Gillette announced plans to eliminate Gillette Canada Inc.'s manufacturing operations in Montreal and Toronto. The Canadian unit's executive offices remained in Montreal, with administrative, distribution, marketing, and sales operations continuing in both cities. Approximately 600 employees in Canada were laid off as part of the global restructure,[1] which followed a $720 million share repurchase and sought to "rationalize worldwide production".[2]
As of 2005, Gillette was not producing products in Canada and employed approximately 200 people in Edmonton, Mississauga, and Montreal.[3]

References

  1. ^ "Gillette Plans to Phase Out Canada Plants". Chicago Tribune. November 24, 1988. Retrieved October 22, 2020.
  2. ^ Burns, John F. (November 24, 1988). "Canada Girds for Action on Trade Bill". The New York Times. Retrieved October 22, 2020.
  3. ^ McKenna, Barrie; Galt, Virginia (January 29, 2005). "P&G cuts mega-deal with Gillette". The Globe and Mail. Retrieved October 29, 2020.

The text is not about "headquarters" specifically, so I propose changing the section title from "Canadian headquarters" to "Operations in Canada".

Can editors please review and update the page since I cannot? Thank you! EA.Ketchum (talk) 21:34, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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