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I started this page back in the early 2000s and for some reason people tried to remove it and when that failed severely edited it. I have added the withers height which is approximately 18 inches the 1930s Staffie standard before it was ruined by the show bunch. I know more about this breed than most so contact me if you wish to edit my additions please.

The difference with the APBT is that this dogs ancestor was interbred with Coon hounds and Bulldogs to bring up the size in the US. Something the Americans appear to be continueing with today with the Extreme Bully etc.

It was good news today that the UK are looking to lift dog specific legislation so the Irish Staff or Old Thyme Staffie will no longer be murdered by ignorant bureaucrats. I hope the breed will be established as a working dog capable of ratting or defending the family but still light enough to be picked up if necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr Nobody (talk • contribs) 17:22, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dr Nobody, it appears that you misunderstand how Wikipedia works. It doesn't matter how much you personally know about something. You have to provide citations to reliable independent sources for any information that you add. {{u|zchrykng}} ^{T|C} 22:17, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please butt out of this page and I have yet again added a reference. Also there is no such thing as an English Staffordshire Bull Terrier which is why I have amended that aswell. In reality the Irish Bull Terrier is the 1930 s Staffordshire Bull Terrier. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr Nobody (talk • contribs) 22:46, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Dr Nobody: please review WP:OWN, WP:CIVIL, WP:3RR, and WP:REFB. They should help you. {{u|zchrykng}} ^{T|C} 02:35, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This book refers to both "Irish" and "English" Staffordshire Bull Terriers. i.e. Staffordshire Bull Terriers (English and Irish) IQ125 (talk) 11:32, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There is no such thing as an English Staffordshire Bull Terrier please check with the Kennel Club it is a Staffordshire Bull Terrier. The Irish strain is not a separate breed but the 1930s standard for the SBT. Why are you interfering in a subject I started years ago and that you know absolutely nothing about ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr Nobody (talk • contribs) 14:46, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dr Nobody, I will reiterate that you should review WP:OWN, it doesn't matter that you started the article, it only matters what reliable independent sources say. zchrykng (talk) 16:07, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Does it matter that the Kennel Club name only a Staffordshire Bull Terrier ? I repeat butt out and investigate some genuine misinformation.

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 There is no such thing as an English Staffordshire Bull Terrier please check with the Kennel Club it is a Staffordshire Bull Terrier. The Irish strain is not a separate breed but the 1930s standard for the SBT. Why are you interfering in a subject I started years ago and that you know absolutely nothing about ?  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Dr Nobody|Dr Nobody]] ([[User talk:Dr Nobody#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dr Nobody|contribs]]) 14:46, 22 October 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 :{{u|Dr Nobody}}, I will reiterate that you should review [[WP:OWN]], it doesn't matter that you started the article, it only matters what [[WP:RS|reliable independent sources]] say. [[User:Zchrykng|zchrykng]] ([[User talk:Zchrykng|talk]]) 16:07, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
+Does it matter that the Kennel Club name only a Staffordshire Bull Terrier ? I repeat butt out and investigate some genuine misinformation.