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Juan González

I've about had it with your bullshit. Gonzalez is not some random "minor league scrub". He was just selected to the AS Futures game and is in Triple A. He's a possible callup at some point. You don't like that it's there? Too fucking bad. RFD it then. Go ahead, bitch about Jharel Cotton too.--Yankees10 02:15, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

He's a minor league journeyman that is not on any top prospect lists and has had very little written about him. Cotton was on the verge but I would have waited a bit longer on him.. Spanneraol (talk) 03:56, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Well he's not on prospect lists because you have to be an incredibly good to be considered a top prospect as a reliever. But besides that he's got a nice ERA this season and is in AAA and has solid stuff so a callup later this year is not an impossibility. Taking that into account I don't see the issue with the addition. If he was some random reliever in A ball than I wouldn't have added him, regardless of the AS Futures Game selection.--Yankees10 04:12, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

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Numbering a Make-up game

The second game of the Cubs-Cardinals double header today was actually a make-up game for the rain-out of the second game (#2) of the season. How do you show that in the "game #" column?? . Buster Seven Talk 06:11, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

The way it is normally handled is that you delete the number from the post-ponded game and re-number all the subsequent games... to if the second game was not played there would be no number there and the third game would be #3. You can see how I did that on the Dodgers gamelog with the May 9th game that was rescheduled for June 2. Spanneraol (talk) 12:33, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Freedom League

Hello What is your name? I am the Freedom Pro Baseball League administrator and would please ask that you don't put updates on the Freedom Pro Baseball League's page. Many hours and hundreds of thousands of dollars have been put into the league to provide opportunities for overlooked players. If you have some questions I can answer them for you. It was a huge undertaking to put the league together since 2009 takes more than can you imagine and unless you are working with the league each day you would not have an understanding to write updates. Are you a Freedom Pro Baseball League fan?

Thank you.

Holly — Preceding unsigned comment added by HollyBaseball (talk • contribs) 19:45, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

I would direct you to wikipedia's policy on conflict of interest. These articles are not supposed to be written by people associated with the organizations and they also should be sourced. The material you have added to the page reads like a press release for the organization. The fact that the league did not play for two years is notable, despite your attempts to white wash the record by removing the information. I am a baseball fan who has written many articles on wikipedia on different minor league organizations and the freedom league wouldnt even have an article if i didn't start it. Spanneraol (talk) 19:54, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Spanneraol. If you have questions about the Freedom League page, please lets discuss. As Nihonjoe said in his post to you lets get along and not make this a big deal. How do you know about the Freedom Pro Baseball League?

Holly — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.62.108.186 (talk) 00:19, 7 July 2015 (UTC) Are you associated with SABR? You would be of great help if you could help with the players stats from 2012 and 2013 uploaded from Poinstreak to Baseball Statistics and Reference. I understand the SABR staff are volunteers and we have tried in the past connecting with SABR to help with players stats being listed for scouts and teams. We would greatly appreciate your help.

Thank you Holly — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.62.108.186 (talk) 00:25, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

I follow independent baseball thats how i found out about the Freedom league.. You kept reverting my addition that the league did not play in 2014 because of a problem with stadium leases. That comes from articles written about the league as well as posts on the league facebook page. Why were you trying to remove that? The league now hasnt played in two years are you sure they will be able to return? Spanneraol (talk) 00:56, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

You say you are a fan of independent baseball and I asked you if you could help with steering me to the person to contact with SABR to have the players stats uploaded from Poinstreak and you make no reply or help. And now you change the page again and put an incorrect derogatory statement that the league was locked out of a stadium for not paying rent. This is totally incorrect. You seem to want to make the league look bad and shut down. You have made changes in wording to make the league look bad in every update you did. Please stop this for the last time. You must have better things to do than make changes to this page.

The Freedom League has given over 300 players opportunities( many would have never played professional baseball) to be paid to play baseball and opportunities for coaches and staff to be paid working in professional baseball. Hundreds of thousands of dollars were paid to players, coaches, staff, cities, businesses, umpires and years of meetings and work were spent putting the league together It seems you have something against the league and Joe Sperle.

If you could please just leave the page alone and move on and use your time working on other pages. Maybe you should look at being positive and happy for other people when they make a positive difference in the world. Please let it go whatever is bothering you and move on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HollyBaseball (talk • contribs) 15:19, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

I have nothing to do with SABR.. I'd suggest contacting them directly, there is a contact link on their website. The information I added was factual and cited with reliable sources. The purpose of wikipedia is to be a factual encyclopedia.. Removing negative information just because it is negative is one of the main reasons why people with conflicts of interest are discouraged from editing articles they are personally involved with. My purpose is to accurately document the league.. not to create a Press release. The previous information you added was copied directly from the league website which is a violation of policy. Do you have evidence that the events described in the linked news articles are incorrect? I do not desire the league to be shutdown... I would prefer them to prosper. There is not a whole lot of information online to use to write about them since they didnt get a lot of media coverage and much of what they did get was related o problemes they were having. Spanneraol (talk) 16:11, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Shall I send you the checks we sent to the stadiums. It is an untrue statement that is negative looking toward the league. The articles written have incorrect facts. Let it go and stop changing the page or our league attorney will be in touch with you. This is enough of this childish stuff. Stop changing with negative comments and get a life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.171.122.216 (talk) 16:25, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Your league attorney has no jurisdiction over wikipedia policy.. Are you denying that games were cancelled due to stadium issues in 2012? There were several articles written about it. Spanneraol (talk) 16:43, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

(friendly stalker). @ the COI editor that doesn't even sign their comments. You will be blocked if you make any further legal threats. Please read Wikipedia:No legal threats. Editor Spannerol is acting in the best interest of Wikipedia and its readers. Your self-interest blinds you to the good intent of his edits. And your aspersions do little to maintain a congenial editorial work place. There is absolutely Zero bad intent toward the Freedom League. . Buster Seven Talk 19:44, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

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Brian Wilson

I feel that it violates WP:CRYSTAL to already call Wilson retired. He was on a major league roster as recently as last season, and he is only 33, which is younger than the age of retirement for most pitchers who have had success in their careers. I could understand your rationale if he was older and hadn't been signed by any team for a few years, but right now, I feel that the only way to justify considering him retired would be if there was an official announcement, which there hasn't been. --A guy saved by Jesus (talk) 22:12, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

First of all, I never used the word "retired" I simply listed his final appearance, something baseball reference also does at the moment for him. If you expect people to make retirement announcements then most of the former players will still be listed as free agents... they simply never get jobs again but they dont make big retirement announcements. Using crystal as an answer to this is incorrect as you are the one assuming someone would hire him again. Spanneraol (talk) 11:40, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Even if the word "retired" is not used, listing his final appearance implies that he is retired because it changes the infobox to say "Batted" and "Threw" instead of "Bats" and "Throws." I'm not necessarily assuming that someone will hire him again, but as I said, he hasn't even been out of baseball for a year. So wouldn't it make more sense to wait until at least the end of this season before changing the infobox again if he doesn't get signed? I also looked back through the page history, and two years ago when Wilson didn't sign with the Dodgers until the end of July, "free agent" was in the infobox for the entire time before that. --A guy saved by Jesus (talk) 17:25, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

He was recovering from an injury and actively looking for a team back then. He shows no sign of looking for a team now. And Baseball Reference lists his final appearance. Spanneraol (talk) 21:13, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Still, I think it would be best to wait at least until the end of this season before we change the infobox in a way that implies that he's no longer an active player, considering he was just active last season and hasn't officially retired. --A guy saved by Jesus (talk) 04:37, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Trade deadline shenanigans

The trade deadline shenanigans we baseball editors endure on a yearly basis prove that you and Muboshgu need to become admins so I'm not the only one swatting flies :-) Go Phightins! 13:26, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm still not interested in the political stuff that goes with being an admin.. you don't seem to get to work on articles as much as you used to. I am back from my vacation though so i will be able to help with reverting the nonsense that goes on in pre-deadline deals. Spanneraol (talk) 14:57, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

I admit, it would be beneficial for the late July madness, but I'm also not such a fan of the wiki politics. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:41, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

I concede that I don't work on as many articles as I used to, but that is mostly due to my work with The Signpost, not being an admin. I need to get back into article work; I fear, though, that I am too far behind with the 2015 Philadelphia Phillies season to catch up :/ Go Phightins! 20:20, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

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how can i edit some locked pages?

Id like to be part of the Wikipedia family and edit what I can to help out Bryant2russell2baez2rizzo (talk) 02:12, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

What pages are you looking to edit? Some have been locked for unverified users because of persistent vandalism. Spanneraol (talk) 02:47, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

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disambig

According to Wikipedia:Disambiguation, when there is a more complete name that is unambiguous (even without being the most common term), that term is typically the best to use. --Ali Pirhayati (talk) 20:55, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Naming conventions (baseball players) is used for baseball disambs. He is never listed by his middle name in any sources. Spanneraol (talk) 20:58, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Then where did "Mark Landon Johnson" in the lead section come from? --Ali Pirhayati (talk) 21:01, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Thats his middle name which is usually used in the lead, but not in the title of articles as people wouldnt be searching for that and would be more likely to know he was a catcher than what his middle name was. Spanneraol (talk) 22:59, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

The disambiguation phrase is not "what people would be more likely to know". It's for disambiguation and if the complete name is clear (even if not common), the phrase should not be added.--Ali Pirhayati (talk) 23:32, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

The baseball player naming conventions guideline i linked to above is the applicable rules for this article. Spanneraol (talk) 23:41, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

That page doesn't say anything about such a case when no disambiguation is needed. When we can have a "natural disambiguation", we should not use the "Parenthetical disambiguation".--Ali Pirhayati (talk) 00:22, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

The page discusses the proper way to name articles.. adding the middle name when the player doesnt go by it is not something that is done. Spanneraol (talk) 00:52, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

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Jose Tabata

He does have a uniform number as a Dodger. –B2Project^(Talk) 16:55, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Only 40 man roster players have numbers listed. Mike Bolsinger is #46 on the Dodgers. Spanneraol (talk) 17:21, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

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removal of sourced content

Show up on the talk page or move on. The Dissident Aggressor 20:58, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

I was in the process of writing on the talk page when you posted this. Spanneraol (talk) 20:59, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

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