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== Editor of the Week ==

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Editor [[User:RightCowLeftCoast|RightCowlLeftCoast]] submitted the following nomination for [[WP:Editor of the Week|Editor of the Week]]:

I nominate User Telaviv1 to be Editor of the Week for being a fair-minded and quality editor for many years. With 80% article-space editing among his 6000 edits, his ability to edit fairly on articles with often contentious subject matters due to real world global politics is commendable. His main interest is the article [[History of Israel]]. He has edited with an understanding of mutual editorial recognition and the collaboration of equals. He was willing to discuss contentious material which was constantly at issue. His own statement, "(my) edits are made in good faith and are not out of a desire to sell political points." is a clear indication of his awareness that Wikipedians, when working together, can create quality content together, even across disputed boundaries.

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Line breaks in Israel

I would like to remind you that forced line breaks (using <br /> tags) are not supposed to be used in the middle of prose in an article. -- tariqabjotu 18:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Tel Aviv

I put this on WikiProject Council/Proposals and thought you might like to join. Sahmsidea 05:38, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New page about Israel and the UN

Hello TelAviv1, you recently edited the page Israel and the United Nations. I invite you to have a look at my rewrite of this subject, Israel, Palestine and the United Nations. I intend to replace the first with the second. Let me know what you think. Emmanuelm 14:49, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

{{Aliyah}}

I believe this template should be removed from Israel because it does not link to the article. -- tariqabjotu 14:48, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I see it does link to Israel in the template's header. I think I have another solution. -- tariqabjotu 14:54, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry to have given offense

I meant my comments only to address the probable outcome of the Israel article being considered for featured status, but clearly I ought to have let the metaphor go before I did. Tegwarrior 15:26, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Israel intro

Please note that the intro posted in Talk was a temporary backup waiting for things to be added, as I invited. When looking on to countries with ancient pasts, such as Japan and Greece, a good part of history is devoted to it. I dont want the history of Israel to be so mixed up with the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict. I am working on editing an intro. Would you be willing to help and make suggestions? --Shamir1 23:00, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stop removing external links form arctiles

This is considered vandalism. --TRFA 15:10, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

The Original Barnstar
For your hard work and contributions in helping Israel earn featured article status. --Jdcaust 16:28, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


RFC discussion of User:Shamir1

A request for comments has been filed concerning the conduct of Shamir1 (talk · contribs). You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Shamir1. -- -- tariqabjotu 03:49, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

history

please look at my latest contribution maybe you'll find an interst in discussions I am having. Zeq 20:58, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings

Hello Telaviv1. Well, that's nice of you! But I'm afraid that to give details about myself would be a violation of WP:Fringe since I appear to many as a crashing pedantic bore! I would reply to your query, but I fear that in doing so, someone might edit out my remarks by noting that they do not come from a WP:Reliable Source! I will say this, that my father fought on the right side in WW2, and brought back vivid memories of Palestine, and I had a wonderful time in both Israel and contiguous areas for several months as a young man, everywhere from Gaza city to the Golan, from the Sinai to Jerusalem. Shalom uv'rakhah/salaam. Best regards Nishidani 10:36, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Israeli Media

The Israeli press is dominated by three newspapaers, the intellectual and left-leaning Haaretz, and two more populist papers, Yediot Ahronot (which claims about 70% of readership) and Maariv. A military censor exists with the right to prevent articles being published if they are certain that an article will damage national security. Journalists can protest to the high court. In practise the censorship is easily circumvented, though editors generally abide by its decisions.

Over two thirds of Israelis have access to the internet and, although newspaper readership remains high, there has been a decline in newspaper sales as many people have switiched to reading the news online.

In addition to the Hebrew press there are Arabic newspapers and a large Russian language press as well as newspapers in Yiddish, English and French.

Television was introduced to Israel in 1968, out of concern that the newly occupied Palestinian territories would recieve most of their news from neighbouring Arab states. The national TV station is funded by a license fee. In 1993 a second channel funded by advertising went live. There is also one cable service ( Hot) and one sattelite service ( Yes). Most Israelis subscribe to one of these services which relay a wide variety of programs including broadcasts from across the Arab world and Europe.

A tag has been placed on telaviv1, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing no content to the reader. Please note that external links, "See also" section, book reference, category tag, template tag, interwiki link, rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article don't count as content. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. VivioFateFan (Talk, Sandbox) 10:59, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Our apologies if you were intending to expand this article but you made an inauspicious start with two serious mistakes: the title should be name surname and you do not copy & paste the infobox: you transclude it thus: {{State of Israel}}. -- RHaworth 17:55, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Just seen your comment on another user_talk page. For drafts, you use user:Telaviv1/sandbox (or any other title that starts "user:Telaviv1/"). -- RHaworth 18:19, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While your improvements to the article are greatly appreciated, if you could help find some sources, that would be great; the history section (and the entire article for that matter) needs to be completely sourced if it is ever going to make it to WP:FA status. Yahel Guhan 01:33, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

pappe / finkelstein

Please stop this edit war:

According to Finkelstein the consensus among serious historians is that there was an ethnic cleansing. --JaapBoBo 13:57, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

jewishvirtuallibrary

You are calling jewishvrituallibrary an unreliable source, however it just gives the text of an Arab League declaration and there is no reason to assume that it is not reliable. So please stop reverting. --JaapBoBo 14:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Its a misleading statement as the paritition granted the palestinians self-dtermination. the article is not about the Palestinians but about Israel. If you want to discuss it raise it on the talk page first. Telaviv1 14:06, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am pretty good with research. Can you be specific in what you are looking for or wondering about? --Shamir1 04:42, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hats off

Your reply on the History of Israel page is spot on, as the Brits say. It should framed.--Gilabrand (talk) 14:27, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Latrun assaults

Hi,
I am looking the army compositions of the forces that assaulted (and defended) Latrun during the 6 assaults of 1948.
I have them for Bin Nun A but not for the others.
Would you have them (with referenes).
I guess, maybe wrongly that you have the book of David Tal about the War of 1948. I think it could be there...
Thank you, Ceedjee (talk) 19:14, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

army sizes 1948 in 'History of Israel'

Please put accurate texts (back) in the article: [[1]] --JaapBoBo (talk) 12:49, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I see no reason to doubt the figures given by Tal. He gives a period for his figures whle the figures you cite don't say to which period they refer. Perhaps you could check your sources to see where they get their figures from? that is what sources they cite? This might help see how reliable they are.

A lot of Palestinian fighters were peasants and I doubt that anyone really knows how many of them were involved, while Jewish forces were clearly growing all the time as they inducted people and immigrants arrived. i think it makes sense to inform the reader that these figures are not reliable and that different opinions exist.

Telaviv1 (talk) 13:05, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lets talk about it on the articles talk page. --JaapBoBo (talk) 18:13, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Biltmore program paragraph 5

Did you add this ref?

Do you have a link to the text, or a book in which it was published. In this way the ref is a bit unsatisfying.

Thx, --JaapBoBo (talk) 21:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

thx --JaapBoBo (talk) 16:36, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

POV pushing and edit warring

You have been making some inappropriate edits to a number of articles, and I have reverted them. Instead of acting in good faith by attempting to dialog and raise consensus on the talk page, you have instead engaged in edit warring by re-insterting the disputed content (at least at Anti-Zionism). I ask you now to please stop. It is more than fine to make bold edits, but if you get reverted, the right and proper thing to do is to go to the talk page and make your proposal there. It is never ok to re-insert your controversial content, if an editor in good faith has reverted you. Please take this under consideration in the future, and try to work with the community, instead of fighting and edit warring. Thanks for your consideration.-Andrew c [talk] 16:38, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

mentioning sources

Hi Tel Aviv,

I'd appreciate if you could add references to sources to your edits. It's not that I doubt your edits, on the contrary, they look like they are from reliable sources. So why not mention them? Thx, --JaapBoBo (talk) 20:20, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Happy Holidays

File:Hanukiyot.jpg


Telaviv1, Happy holidays, and Happy New Year See you next year.
Yahel Guhan 23:33, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Talk:Israel

Please don't feed the troll. Don't try to reason with him, he seems incapable of that. No matter what you write, he'll either ignore it, or turn it around so that he's right and you're wrong, regardless of the facts. Ignoring him isn't much of a choice either, since he'll just open more and more rants, until the talk page is 300 gigabytes long. I suggest you help prevent him from adding more of his rants. okedem (talk) 17:17, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

anti-Semitism

If this really concerns you, be aware that there are actual anti'Semites actively editing Wikipedia, e.g. this example Slrubenstein | Talk 02:57, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FYI + Qu

welcome to Wikipedia

Zeq (talk) 19:27, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Techshoret conference

Hi, will you be at the Techshoret conference in Jerusalem this Thursday? (28/2) I'll be there. John Hyams (talk) 17:12, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jews in Estonia (1918-1940) (1991-...)

Hello, could you help me finding materials about Jewish cultural autonomosy in Estonia before the Soviet and Nazi occupation? Im looking for the book or article about Jews honouring the Republic of Estonia in the terms of allowing on the state level and by the state order a cultural automoasy for the Estonian-Jews. I cant remember the books name - it was created before the foundation of the modern Israeli State. Said thanks to Estonia for allowing such autonomosy etc. Karabinier (talk) 20:36, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Accidental warnings

I apologise for warning you. It was not my intention. I am also using a shared (public) computer, so you never know what might happen next! Littleteddy (roar!) 11:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, my bad, I just realised who did it - I forgot to log out from the public computer and somebody (in the internet cafe I used) came and vandalised with my account :( It won't happen again. Littleteddy (roar!) 13:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
LOL! Yeah, your 15 minutes of fame! Littleteddy (roar!) 14:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edits in Hamas

Hi Telaviv1,

Your last two edit (here and here) to Hamas#Antisemitism were of rather poor quality (see correction here). Please check your spelling and the sources carefully before adding or modifying content on a subject which seems to elicit quite a controversy.

Cheers and kind regards, pedro gonnet - talk - 19.03.2008 13:47

Not quite, you added that it was an interview in February when, in fact, it was a commentary/editorial in January... But it's fixed now :) Cheers, pedro gonnet - talk - 19.03.2008 13:56

Help

Hi! I need your help. Could you translate the article about Haganah, please? I've seen that it's an important article on the Hebrew Wikipedia but I don't speak this language. If you wanna translate any article onto Spanish, please, tell it to me. --Jeneme (talk) 18:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re the assassination of Lord Moyne and whether his friendship with Winston Churchill was relevant to British Conflict with Zionism, and also whether his alleged antisemitism is as relevant as his enforcement of British anti zionist policy, I responded on the talk page of that article, unless you respond on that talk page then at some point I'm liable to make a new edit - though I'll try to make it clearer why the assassination of a close friend and ally of the then British Prime minister was relevant to "British conflict with Zionism". Jonathan Cardy (talk) 20:35, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Muslims supporting Zionism

BrandonYusufToropov has again raised the issue of the appropriateness of noting Muslims who support for Zionism in the Zionism article. As you have commented on this issue before, I am notifying you of this, in case you wish to follow the new discussion, which you can find here. Jayjg (talk) 00:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Hi, I am a relatively new user and I just reverted a title change by Strongbrow, but I think i made a mess with the page history. Could you help me fix it? Thanks. Tkalisky (talk) 21:49, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edit summaries

Hi. Please use edit summaries when you make changes to an article.

Your recent changes to New antisemitism would be a lot easier to follow if you explained your rationale in edit summaries. Thank you. — [[::User:Malik Shabazz|Malik Shabazz]] ([[::User talk:Malik Shabazz|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz|contribs]]) 21:37, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Identifying examples of "new antisemitism" without citing reliable sources that identify them as examples of new antisemitism is considered "original research", and Wikipedia policy expressly prohibits original research.

It doesn't matter whether it seems obvious that this or that is an example of "new antisemitism", without a reliable source that clearly identifies it as such the article cannot mention it as an example.

If you have questions about specific examples or sources, please discuss them on the Talk page. Thank you. — [[::User:Malik Shabazz|Malik Shabazz]] ([[::User talk:Malik Shabazz|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz|contribs]]) 15:25, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

PS: I'm not related to or associated with Malik Zulu Shabazz of the so-called New Black Panther Party, except that we both chose our names in honor of El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz. — [[::User:Malik Shabazz|Malik Shabazz]] ([[::User talk:Malik Shabazz|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz|contribs]]) 15:25, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Sources on Hamas

Hi Telaviv1,

I saw your recent edits on Hamas and thought I should point out that MEMRI is not considered a reliable source (see discussion here). Do you have a better source for that quote?

Furthermore, the aljazeera.net link for the Khaled Mashaal quote does not seem to be working. Do you have a better one?

Cheers and thanks, pedrito - talk - 03.07.2008 12:47

Hi Telaviv1
Thanks for fixing the link! As for the MEMRI bit, it doesn't matter how clear the video is, if no media outlet other than a partisan watchdog group picked it up, it is not WP:NOTABLE...
Also, is there any special reason for making the word "Culture" boldfaced?
Cheers, pedrito - talk - 03.07.2008 14:28

Zionism and Racism

Telaviv1, your welcome but I must tell you that I am giving serious consideration to nominating the article for deletion again, or at the very least merge it as a subsection with Zionism or Israel or anti-Zionism or racism or discrimination or Allegations of Israeli apartheid or Resolution 3379 (since defunct) or some such. IMHO we don't need quite so many articles of such articles, nor does the subject matter deserve its own article. Do you agree? Tundrabuggy (talk) 12:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Coastal Road massacre

I saw your comments regarding Ehud Barak on the article, and you are of course quite right. You might want ot have a look at Dalal Mughrabi, where an even more unlikey claim is made - that Barak not only participated, but shot her dead body. The source for that claim is an article that also claims 70 people were killed, that Israel's parliamnet is in Tel Aviv and other simialr nonsense. Canadian Monkey (talk) 21:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

British Isles

I think you need to get some citations up on that addition if it is going to survive. --Snowded TALK 18:14, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have a Look

Please have a look at this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_1391

75.172.10.146 (talk) 18:22, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hebrew Wikipedia

Hi!
I wanted to know if u have an account in the hebrew wikipedia? and if u do plz add a inter-wiki link between your english account and the hebrew one. thank in advance --Oren neu dag (talk) 14:13, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My last edit to the article talk page crossed with your post on my talk page. As you might guess from my comment, I am anti-nationalist and think one of the biggest disasters of the last two centuries is the left's belief that certain nationalisms are progressive. Palestinian nationalism being a current vogue, but support for ZANU in the 70s which has created oen of the two biggest murderer's among African dictators of today, excuse making for Saddam and the Kuwait invasion are other relativey recent examples of why nationalism isn't progressive.--Peter cohen (talk) 15:00, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RZ

in the RZ article you added the passage "The group is reported to have been highly antisemitic", based on a reference from Karmon's book Coalitions Between Terrorist Organizations. The book is not available online, and I'm wondering if you could provide a quote from the book that would back up the assertion? --Soman (talk) 09:32, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

email

Hi, I tried sending you an email earlier. My copy has come through to me yet, so I'm tryign to work out whether I really sent it. THanks --Peter cohen (talk) 21:41, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply. I intend to respond to it relatively soon. However, in the mean time, can I just ask why you've opted for two sections on the theme of AS and AZ? In the Jewish one there is a quote from the European Jewish peace group which is a response to a paper mentioned in the other section. My instinct is that the material is better grouped together. (I thought about asking in the article talk page but there's someone there who I think woudl object to anything I said on principle.)--Peter cohen (talk) 18:00, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

About this

Although tonight might not be the most sober of nights to note this, I believe that our mutual 'bumpings into' may have developed some level of mutual recognition, if not acceptance; at this point in my Wiki-ishness, I consider this a positive development, compared to other things that are happening here and in the real world. It will take some time for me to digest the depth and content of this edit (and at #history,elsewhere) before I comment/edit.

I should note that I look upon the world in a very broad different light. I see the world situation (and our editing part in it) in terms of Mother Nature (my professional bias and likely the primary impetus for religion), God (as that might be differently defined and recognized), survival of the fittest (scientific non-God Darwin, my professional learning), humane survival of all (human rights), and the fact (like it or not) that shit happens. For me, these truths/impressions should be recognized and considered with a typically American acceptance that many different pieces are required to make the puzzle complete, neutrally; I believe that a reasonable definition of this would be "Live and let live" (which I feel is considerably more American than currently indicated on the dab page).

Based on that, I can say with impunity that, "Life is a sexually transmitted, fatal disease." It is neither incorrect nor inaccurate, yet it misses several important steps along the way between the truth expressed and a factual expression of those truths.

With that said, I look forward to our future collaboration. Regards, CasualObserver'48 (talk) 15:40, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-Zionism

Hi Telaviv1, I'm sure that your edits are in good faith, but to begin the article on anti-Zionism in its first section with contemporary debates about a relationship with antisemitism, before any overview of the topic whatsoever, seems an extremely odd way to write an article. Certainly I've seen articles that start with a history of the topic, along with articles that begin with an overview, but I'm hard pressed to think of any that would, or do, start with a discussion of one type of contemporary debate. Can you explain this? It seems you've also replaced it, even removing the overview paragraph, without any comment. Mackan79 (talk) 07:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi from John

Hi! Long time no speak :) I'm John Hyams from Techshoret. The Gaza conflict article changed so many times, and even the talk pages there were vandalized... Anyway, will you be attending TCC 2009? I will, so it would be nice to see you there. I'm also on Facebook, you can add John Hyams. Best regards, John Hyams (talk) 09:08, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, only if you have time, could you check if my basic claims are right in this discussion?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2008%E2%80%932009_Israel%E2%80%93Gaza_conflict#Privacy.2Frespect_of_the_dead

Thanks a lot John Hyams (talk) 09:02, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since you have contributed to this page in the past, I thought you might be interested in the edits now being introduced by somebody or other from Kabul.--Gilabrand (talk) 07:30, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there

Hi and thanks for the message. I do not have the personal experience as you, since I live in Scotland rather than Israel, but I do teach about politics/international relations, including the middle east. My first impressions were than the article was an interesting read, though there are many claims that require references. Cheers for now Fishiehelper2 (talk) 14:41, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lede changes

It was hard to separate the various edits. I would note that "See also"s do not belong in ledes. Jayjg (talk) 05:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just as Mose of Kabul's edits were too biased in one direction, yours were too biased in the other. For example, not all the Jews were expelled, and the article is about the exodus from Arab lands, not from Muslim countries. Your edits were also poorly formatted and referenced. I've re-added the best of the material, and cleaned up the references for you. Jayjg (talk) 06:04, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have done no reasearh and are ignorant as to the topics disussed here, You have made no contribtion to this page.? On the contrary, I'm the person who has been adding reliably sourced, properly written material to that mess. See this, for example, where I add significant detail and 17 citations to the article. Jayjg (talk) 02:51, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Revolutionary Cells

Hi, I wanted to get in touch regards your last revision of the above article since I'm not sure whether there is unanimous consensus that Klein's mother was Jewish. According to Klein's own research she was not Jewish but had been imprisoned in Ravensbruck for Rassenschande.

--Rbudegb (talk) 08:46, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks for getting back - it's the weekend too here in London, so no worries. Regards Klein's mother's ethnicity, I've put some sources forward on the article's talk page. Let me know what you think. Regards,--Rbudegb (talk) 16:00, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rev Cells

(P. S.: I know this is a bit much, but I wanted to make the point that the Rz, contrary to german Wikip (and then en Wikip) did not just explode on the scene from nowhere.) I have not found much serious stuff on the net about the early rz. But I am now even more convicted, that this group at that time was basically a Frankfurt-only affair.

Rz different in style from the Raf? Rz' s founders were not at all that different in outlook and livestyle and experiences from raf people like Holger Meins and Jan Carl Raspe. Raspe had been in the Berlin Kommune 2 and his Diplomarbeit in education (actually quiet good, sadly enough) was published with Frankfurt maoist publishers Roter Stern Verlag, not yet called Stroemfeld ("field of streaming energy"), still a very non Hölderlin-facsimile publishing thing. (Even later on Weather manifesto Prairie Fire will be published there)
One of Red Star's steady sellers was a maoist journal in communist education, "Erziehung and Kommunikation", around which a militant group seems to have established itself at the heart of publishers. The name of these people is not well known, at least not well published, and I really don't know how many of those MLers (if any) will later opt for the urban guerilla lifestyle. (But it is also clear that even very early Rz was not just the 4 known names. There will also have been contacts to Berlin and other places. PP Zahl?).

Back to firmer ground and the rz proper: My main sources here are H- J Klein and then Werner Olles, ex-german sds, also from Frankfurt, who says he was with early rz guys in the "Red Panthers" group, (but publishes now in a very rightwing and perhaps not that serious journal).

Anyway, what it boils down to is: The early Rz was in a thing called Frankfurt Black Panthers Solidarity Group, and esp. in its follow-up group Red Panthers, who had the same Cleaveresk "lumpenproletariat -strategie" as pre-raf raf. Most of early RZ also worked at the Roter Stern Verlag. This enterprise was founded by KD Wolff, SDS student protest leader,after a time at then also half maoist März Verlag. Wolff was for some time to come a fanatical Kim IL Sung worshiper. To say it bluntly: it looks now as if the Rz were for a while the armed wing of KD Wolff's enterprise.

The early Black Panthers solidarity group was very popular with many people from different groups on the broader left (it was the time of Angela Davis). It said it helped black-power and BPP soldiers from the US army HQ nearby, it said it collected money for the poor BPP prisoners in fascist KKK land (which means Eldridge's private purse): collected moneys were fueled into Cleaver's Algiers cartheft enterprise. The BP Solidarity Committee published 4 small things with Roter Stern publishers. (A bit later a book with loose sheets, educational material on "Amerikka" to be taught by radical teachers at gymnasiums everywhere in the Federal Republic was also brought forth at Roter Stern).

KD Wolff was also in this BPP Solidarity thing, made Weinreich ((not in en Wikip)) (Red Panthers) his right hand man at Roter Stern, RZ founder W. Böse (long on the scene, BPP solidarity group) was put on the Roter Stern payrole. Pro forma photographer for Roter Stern, but really used for underground work with passports etc. was Weinrich' s soon to be girlfriend ....(later long time common-law wife of Carlos). Brigitte Kuhlmann (who will die at Entebbe) had also been with the Red Panthers.

Böse was already well known in Frankfurt for his more-extreme-than-thou and outspoken attitude (as far as I know he was then not denounced by "the scene"). On this "scene" Böse and H-J Klein openly advocated the (to many radical leftists) off-putting execution of June2nd traitor Ulrich Schmücker.

Böse (says Klein, but Böse was then already dead) later told Klein, he had fetched the arab Munich September massacre terrorists from the airport to Munich (this is in Klein's autobiography, rororo aktuell).

There were many people in Black Panthers Solidarity (and in Angela David support), some happily boasting about it on tv chatshows, and many more on the "scene". Only a tiny part of which went on to put up the gun. The marxist and militant Revolutionärer Kampf, Joschka Fischer's and Danny Cohn-Bendit' s group, to just name 2 of H.-J. Klein' s friends, did work at Opel and strangely enough continued for a while to dream of a working class revolution (Fischer is said to have had Stalin's real name as a nickname then), they fought mock battles in the woods (often with Klein) and real battles in the Westend ("Häuserkampf"), "always" with Klein, but Klein' s good friends from the scene (Werner Olles gives the names) did not become terrorists.--Radh (talk) 14:15, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Holocaust deniers

Could I ask you to discuss your reversion of my edits to Holocaust denial on the Talk:Holocaust denial page, please? These were not done "quietly", as you suggest in your edit summary. I advised on the Talk page ahead of time what I was going to do, I included a descriptive edit summary with each change describing briefly why I was removing them, and I listed each removal on the talk page with a more detailed explanation. Can we discuss this? - EronTalk 20:49, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hist of Jews in Poland

I think the way you put it in now is probably the best. There are other sources which give some comparable figures in a time period of about + or - 100 years, though usually lower (basically 50% to 70%). Personally, my guess though is that all the sources are probably being Eurocentric about this and what they mean when they say 80% of World's Jews is 80% of Europe's Jews.radek (talk) 05:08, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A delayed response

A long overdue reply to your nice February note awaits you on my talk page. Please forgive the delay. Hertz1888 (talk) 02:30, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

my addition is directly from the source. if you have sources to add that further explain the situation, please add them. however, don't continue to remove sourced information in a section that specifically says it needs expanding.

in addition, there is a section on the talk page to discuss this - please reply there.

also, those links you have added to antisemitism are not relevant to that section. Criticism of Zionism is not equal to antisemitism, and it is undue and misleading to include all those links implying that they are the same thing. untwirl(talk) 14:14, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings, Jonathan. Upon looking back in the edit history I see that the major deletion you made in this article two days ago has been restored, deleted, and restored again (the latest by me, as initially I saw no explanation for it). You may wish to redo this edit, along with giving a more elaborate justification. Hertz1888 (talk) 18:45, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Following up my comments at your arb request, I trust this is an end of the matter. I'm disappointed that you still think I'm prejudiced (if you do), because my reaction to those comments of yours on Talk:Self-hating Jew should have made my feelings on that subject quite clear. Disembrangler (talk) 21:49, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Talk:Self-hating Jew

I'm sorry you thought my comments were patronizing. I didn't intend them to be.

I understand why you're upset about the unfounded accusations of sockpuppetry and other comments. If you feel that Rd232/Disembrangler should be reprimanded or punished for her/his conduct, you should complain at WP:AN/I (but be advised that you may not get a sympathetic hearing now that a couple of days have passed). — [[::User:Malik Shabazz|Malik Shabazz]] (talk · contribs) 17:36, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the interests of moving things forward, it might be helpful to delete or archive the "Rd232 false accusations" section on that page, since clearly this is over and it distracts from the ongoing issue about the article. Also, I haven't actually apologised for the WP:SPI thing; I felt I had good reason to ask the sockpuppet question, but clearly the answer was "no", and it wouldn't have been a pleasant experience for you. Sorry. Also, I did overreact originally to your interpretation of my remark about your username (though it was combined with something about rudeness which was a massive stretch, which didn't help...). I don't have a racist bone in my body and your insinuation of anti-semitism (which I see now from your point of view why you might have thought that; I hope you also see that this wasn't the case) made me quite angry and lose my ability to assume good faith. Sorry. Rd232/Disembrangler (talk) 19:00, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've deleted the section for reasons noted above. If you think it needs to be archived instead, feel free to undelete and archive. Disembrangler (talk) 19:32, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anti-Israel lobby in the United States

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Question

In History of Israel, I saw that you added 'In 1799 Napoleon briefly occupied the coast and prepared a proclamation offering to create a Jewish state but did not issue it.' - what is the source for this? LoverOfTheRussianQueen (talk) 16:34, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tel Aviv airport massacre

I like to ask a favor from you. On German Wikipedia the early 70s Lod massacre perpetrated by three Japnese Red Army cadre is said to have happened rather spontanenously. My random lecture on the JRA says no way, but I need a serious source, so far the best I can do is an interview with a hard-core arab-JRA film-director. Would you know of anything more presentable? But if you think it really was a completely illogical act (measured against the logic of the PFLP, who loved the idea of non-arab terrorists or the logic of a small JRA then fresh in exile in Palestine) or if the general idea in Israel is, that it was such an act, please say so.--Radh (talk) 18:08, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot, ĩt is very appreciated. I am just reading a Sept., 9 and following dates 2007 Neojaponism interview with Patricia Steinhoff on the whole JRA mess and also on the Lod attack, in this interview she comes on very pro-JRA, which is a bit strange, she may have been under the influence of the autobiography of the former Arab-JRA leader, Shinegobu. She calls the attack a non-suicide attack, which goes against all my convictions. [2].
Just read that the lawyer for the Lod guy Okamoto was in the Entebbe plane and talked to Böse! It is a small world. Found in a book by Oliver Schröm on Carlos (google-books, but in German).
Just finished by notes for the history of the JRA, a subject which I know next to nothing about. But I learned something about Japanese terrorism, I guess: 1.) When the newly formed United Japanese Red Army, not much more than 20 people all in all from two different groups met and started training in the winter of 1971/'72, the result of this merger was 12 dead, murdered by their comrades in orgies of selfcriticism. 2.) the hard-core of the group of the Red Army that went to Lebanon in the early 1970s, the ones that were not sympathisers, film-makers and so on, but real terrorists numbered not more than 6 or 7 people. 3 of those went on the suicidal Lod mission. The female leader of this Arab-JRA group, who planned the Lod attack had lost her best friend in the 1971/'72 massacre and was to loose a boy-friend at the airport. All the most radical Japanese militants from '69 and all the terrorists were from elite universities or at least from good technical schools, Bis bald, Ralf.--Radh (talk) 23:29, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Israel FAR

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  • [3] - Good point indeed. Thanks for pointing it, I'll correct the Portuguese version accordingly.--Darwinius (talk) 23:45, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

History of Israel

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Please remember to use edit summaries. I don't know why you made your edits and they don't seem an improvement, so I've reverted them. Maybe you need to discuss them on the talk page if they are meant to make some sort of point. Dougweller (talk) 14:50, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ostrovsky conspiracy & Waldheim

Hi, in this edit you removed referenced material. Why? This was already in the bullshit section of the article so there is no reason to do this - unless the references were in fact not supporting the statements in the text or completely made up. But as I know Ostrovsky I would be surprised to learn he did not make these claims. Richiez (talk) 00:42, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Broken links

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April 2011

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Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses

I don't want to get into an edit war with you, and I sure as hell am not a Nazi sympathizer. However, the Jewish boycott of German goods article appears to imply that the Nazi boycott was a counter-boycott that was afterwards and in response to the Jewish boycott of German goods (although there is only one source to back this up). I'm sure that a Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses was inevitable, and they probably were only using the Jewish boycott as a convenient excuse, but nonetheless, this seems to me to be important context that should not be removed entirely from the article. I'll let your edit stand; what do you think? Wingman4l7 (talk) 00:48, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your response to this on my talk page; that article from The Independent definitely puts The Daily Mail's article into a proper historical perspective. Sorry for causing the ensuing mini-edit war! Wingman4l7 (talk) 01:18, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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1RR violation at History of Israel

Please self-revert. Thanks. --Frederico1234 (talk) 14:07, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I speak English. Telaviv1 (talk) 16:11, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
1 revert per day is the limit. Please revert. --Frederico1234 (talk) 16:39, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Its not a rule its a voluntary code. Why don't you explain what you are objecting to? Telaviv1 (talk) 16:50, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is a rule. Please see WP:ARBPIA#General_1RR_restriction. --Frederico1234 (talk) 17:46, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The page you refer to is out of date and it is not clear by what authority the assertion was made. Nor was any notice given. I corrected the section in line with your comment. So I reject your assertion. Telaviv1 (talk) 21:19, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The authority behind WP:ARBPIA are the administrators on Wikipedia. They have the right to sanction editors who do not follow the rules. This is done at WP:AE. WP:ARBPIA is in effect today, as seen on WP:AE. --Frederico1234 (talk) 21:38, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Which case are you referring to? Telaviv1 (talk) 21:41, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Are you kidding? This rule is enforced severely and many people have been blocked for breaking it. Zerotalk 22:03, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
First of all what was removed and added have no connection to the conflict(becouse chessdovi is banned from the topic area) secound there is no arbpia notice on the page so we must assume WP:AGF--Shrike (talk) 22:09, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do you guys all read my comments page? Telaviv1 (talk) 17:30, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like it. There is now a notice on the talk page, so you must not exceed 1RR. It's not a voluntary code, and I think I should add that I calling ordinary edits vandalism is not a good idea(and certainly caught my attention), and if you revert anything that is not vandalism according to WP:VANDALISM that counts as 1 revert. Differences of opinion don't count as vandalism. Dougweller (talk) 15:26, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Was Marx a Jew?

I know he was born a Jew, but he was baptized. If you know of any RS's on the topic can you post them here? Thanks, Slrubenstein | Talk 16:42, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Translation into Hebrew

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your work on the Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses article

I wanted to thank you for your work on the Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses article! I think you've really strengthened it in terms of citations and historical context. In the future, it would be great if you could add markup to your references; it is best to avoid bare URLs if possible. Cheers! Wingman4l7 (talk) 02:31, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal

It isn't strange that the only tiny developed democratic country in the Middle East (the only place where Arabs are truly free) is the only one that has an entire article dedicated to their enemies' accusations (real or invented), but countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran or the Palestinians don't have one. My proposal is to create a page about Criticism of the Iranian government... starting with simple facts: it's a theocratic regime which finances terrorism (Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Revolutionary Guards, etc), kills dissidents in Europe, bombs Beirut and Buenos Aires, helps to violently suppress protests in Syria (where its allied dictator is facing major problems) and inside Iran, promotes violence against defenseless civilians in Israel, Lebanon, Afghanistan and Iraq, possesses ambitions in Bahrain, scares Sunni Arab countries of the Persian Gulf and threatens to close the strait of Hormuz, violates Human Rights, threatens to erase Israel from the Earth, it's an oligarchical-clerical dictatorship that hangs homosexuals, denies the Holocaust, perpetrates terrorist attacks in Thailand, Georgia, India, Azerbaijan, Kenya, Greece, Turkey, South Africa, Cyprus, Bulgaria (at least 24 countries in five continents)... kills diplomats and tourists, assaults embassies, has an antisemitic imperialist ideology full of dangerous suicidal fanatics and misogynists, stones women for committing "sexual offenses", has genocidal aspirations against another nation, oppresses minorities, has religious ambitions of regional and global power... a danger for the world in general and Israel and the Jewish people in particular. I mean, don't you think we should remove Wikipedia's double standard regarding criticism of other countries?? I'll let you think about it and if you want starting the new article. Greetings.--JellWaffle (talk) 23:37, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As RHaworth recently admitted, this article must be userfied, but not removed. Greetings.--JellWaffle (talk) 12:57, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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What do you think?

Of this--Sonntagsbraten (talk) 23:53, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RfA

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6th Airborne Division in Palestine - a thought

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Could you help me with this? I don't know who are the current Head of the Government Deputies.--Michael Zeev (talk) 03:56, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit summaries

Just to note that since you don't seem to want to give these, don't be surprised if I or others simply revert you. You've been asked to provide them several times and not just by me. Dougweller (talk) 12:14, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

POV deletion at History of Israel

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