User talk:J3Mrs

Just wanted to say a nice thing, that though you and I have spatted, we agree that Eric Corbett is a net positive to wikipedia and a good editor worth keeping! Montanabw^(talk) 01:18, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Nothing to disagree with there. J3Mrs (talk) 11:27, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Certainly others have not shared this view. Glad that people who hold a variety of views on various issues can come together in support of a valued colleague. Montanabw^(talk) 20:52, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Caphouse

Hello, J3MRs. I apologise if my edit to Caphouse Colliery was incorrect. I was typing from memory that the men from Caphouse and Bullcliffe Wood were both moved to Denby Grange after the strike, but I can't find any decent source for this so I might have just imagined it. There is this article from the Yorkshire Post in 2007, but it reads as if they just copied the Wikipedia article at the time.

Did you live around there at the time and can you remember it closing? Or did you work there? Epa101 (talk) 12:10, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

I have several coal mining related articles on my watchlist. Caphouse and the Prince of Wales at Midgeley were the pits owned by Denby Grange Collieries Ltd before they were nationalised. J3Mrs (talk) 14:08, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

How are you sure that it closed outright though?

Although this was definitely not my original source, one BBC list that I found suggests that it merged. It has a note at the end saying, Although there were 170 collieries open in 1984, several merged before they closed which is why there are only 152 entries on this list. Caphouse is not on the list, which suggests a merger with Denby Grange. Epa101 (talk) 15:50, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

You can't just make assumptions, the BBC reference suggests nothing of the sort. There are references in the article to it closing. Its reserves were exhausted, that's why it closed. Try refs 3 and 5 in the National Coal Mining Museum for England article where I reverted your edit.

I see. They're not particularly academic sources, but I suppose that they're better than nothing. I finally found my copy of Colin Jackson's The Complete A-Z of Colliery Names, Pre-1947 Owners, Areas & Dates. That actually says that it closed in 1984! That might explain why there's not a single mention of the colliery in the book Coal, Crisis, and Conflict, which goes into meticulous detail on every pit in Yorkshire and its political alignment, and why it's missing from the map of the Yorkshire coalfield on page 6. You might be able to see it on Google Books preview here. Epa101 (talk) 19:00, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Pastscape is a perfectly reliable source and everything I can find including the museum site and Northern Mine Research Society say it closed in 1985.(October in fact) Making more assumptions from a book on the strike isn't helpful. You made a mistake, live with it. J3Mrs (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

That's really quite rude. I'm being polite with you. You're breaking the rules of Wikipedia by speaking like that. Also, the book that I've quoted is an academic text that is thoroughly researched. It is more reliable than the websites that you've looked up. Epa101 (talk) 19:29, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Nonsense and I've had enough, even the Yorkshire post article you linked in the first of your posts says The museum is based on the site of the old Caphouse Colliery at Overton which was worked from at least 1789 until the coal seam was exhausted in 1985. Get your facts straight. J3Mrs (talk) 19:30, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

That doesn't mean that the men weren't transferred elsewhere. "Merged" doesn't always mean that two pits were knocked together. It's sometimes used to mean that the two places of employment were merged, as say happened between Dodworth and North Gawber, or between Hickleton and Goldthorpe. Nevertheless, you are being so rude that I am going to stop the discussion. You should note that you are breaking the Wikipedia rule on Civility, which is a policy for all editors and applies to talk pages as well. If I catch you doing this again, then I shall report you. Epa101 (talk) 20:02, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Until you learn to add factual information and not your own personal speculation you will run into problems. You now seem to have changed the argument and adopted a very patronising tone. Don't post here again. J3Mrs (talk) 20:09, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

WP:OR and, more specifically, WP:SYNTH. WP:VNT is probably appropriate also. That's the way it is. - Sitush (talk) 02:41, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Editor of the Week

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