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Thank you, I was actually wondering how to do these. JeffSpaceman (talk) 17:12, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

June 2020

Hello, I'm Trains2050. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Exhibitionism, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Trains2050 (talk) 15:33, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Ah, a mistake on my part. Thanks for the correction. JeffSpaceman (talk) 15:34, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

its not your mistake, i was using Huggle and i reverted it the same time you reverted it but i restored your edit. Trains2050 (talk) 15:36, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Double oof on my part. I didn't realize I was in the right here. Ah well, all is good now. JeffSpaceman (talk) 15:37, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Hi Jeff! I just wanted to thank you for the work you've been doing recently correcting vandalism. Happy Editing! AviationFreak💬 20:21, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

What was the reason for removing my edit from Anikha?

Angdy😠 Ananya S Panicker (talk) 20:41, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Because it was not written with a neutral point of view. And even if she does hold that nickname, it's unsourced, so it was kinda going to be tossed out either way. JeffSpaceman (talk) 20:42, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Have you tried RedWarn?

I used to only use Twinkle for anti-vandalism (like you're doing), but now I use a newer tool (currently in beta) called RedWarn. It allows for a lot of customization and has some other upsides too. One thing I like about it is how it opens the warning interface right after you rollback edit(s) (rather than simply opening the user's talk page). Since the tool is in beta, it lacks some features that Twinkle has (and thus I still have Twinkle installed), but I thought it would be worth telling you about if you haven't heard of it. Since you're a newer user, you may have an easier time acclimating to it. If you prefer Twinkle, that's okay too — I just thought I'd make you aware of RedWarn. Anyway, thanks for all the anti-vandalism work you've been doing! It makes Wikipedia a better encyclopedia! —GalaxyDog^talk 22:08, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

I have never used RedWarn, since I don't know how to set it up. I am perfectly happy with Twinkle, but I guess it could be nice to mix it up every now and then. If you could tell me how to set it up, that would be excellent, and thanks for the compliment -- always love getting some props! :-) JeffSpaceman (talk) 22:15, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

First, you need to install Enterprisey's script-installer by going into the "Gadgets" section of your preferences and checking "Install scripts without having to edit JavaScript files." Then just go to Wikipedia:RedWarn and click "Install" on the infobox on the right side of the page. After you've installed it, you can configure it to your liking by clicking the gear icon that it adds to the top-right corner of every page. —GalaxyDog^talk 22:21, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Honestly, I think I will stick to Twinkle at the moment, but I am happy to try out RedWarn at any time, maybe even in the near future. Thanks for the heads up! Cheers. JeffSpaceman (talk) 22:27, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Alright. Yeah, I just wanted to make you aware of it. Have a nice day! —GalaxyDog^talk 22:28, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Regarding Names of the Phillipines

You removed my correction to the transcription of the Hebrew name because it "did not appear constructive". I am a native Hebrew speaker. The previous transcription, which you brought back to the page, is incorrect. It's not a matter of minor orthographic stylings, it's literally transcribing a different phrase from the Hebrew text next to it. It should be obvious, as the Hebrew text has three words, and the transcription only has two. If I made some sort of styling error, I'll be happy to be made aware of, but if you just removed my correction randomly or automatically, I'll put it back in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.173.97.169 (talk) 22:15, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Admittedly, that was a mistake on my part. Fortunately, it is back now, so I don't even need to restore. Thanks for alerting me. JeffSpaceman (talk) 12:14, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Cheers. Beer is good. Drmies (talk) 21:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	My general rule of thumb for awarding this barn-star. If I see someone so many times while patrolling recent changes that I remember their username, I give out this star and jolly god I am not forgetting yours anytime soon. Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 17:18, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

PS. You have go to try Redwarn (i did read your discussion above), it's a huge improvement over twinkle. That's an order! :-) Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 17:19, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

YES, MASTER! :-P JeffSpaceman (talk) 12:46, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Scottie McClue

Hi Jeff, I noticed someone had vandalized The Scottie McClue page so that when you search up scottie you get some other guy and I was just trying tp put it right if you can help[ great — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.135.118.116 (talk) 18:48, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

It was a case of unexplained content removal, if you're asking why I reverted your edit. JeffSpaceman (talk) 20:00, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Pest

I just ranged the hell out of them. Until next year... OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 22:18, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ohnoitsjamie: Wait, so they've been here before? JeffSpaceman (talk) 22:20, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

It's either one person, or the IP range of a nursery school. The result is the same either way. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 22:21, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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		This is for your valuable efforts on countering Vandalism and protecting Wikipedia from it's threats. I appreciate your effort. You are a defender of Wikipedia. Thank you. PATH SLOPU 16:38, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Oversight

Just in case you were about to with this edit, I've already put it to the attention of the oversight team, just in case you also sent one and two went through. :) Thanks, WikiMacaroons^Cinnamon? 20:39, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

I actually was not planning on sending it to the oversight team, since I didn't see anything particularly wrong with it. Oh how wrong I was. JeffSpaceman (talk) 20:40, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Oh, you might be right... I thought it had what looked like a phone number in it, I usually send that kind of stuff over. WikiMacaroons^Cinnamon? 20:41, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, it does look a lot like a phone number, good rationale. Either way, it probably won't hurt for that to be suppressed. JeffSpaceman (talk) 20:42, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Thank you for killing off those vandals! I appreciate it. You're a vandal-fighting machine. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 00:57, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

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Two Dogmas of Empiricism

I thought my addition was pretty clearly just a clarification. It only concluded the existing line of reasoning in the text. It is explicit in Quine's original paper that he synonymity must be predicated on a notion of necessity and thus analyticity, making the whole argument for defining synonymity quite circular! That's precisely what he tries to show, and is well-known by any philosopher who has read his paper. There is no whiff of 'opinion' about it, since I was merely wrapping up Quine's argument. Please revert.

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Apologies for that. I initially found it somewhat of an obvious, unnecessary edit, but I definitely understand why you admit it now. Apologies, I see you have reverted my edit, and I'm sorry. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. JeffSpaceman (talk) 01:39, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

No worries at all. And I appreciate you being open-minded. I agree that given the right background, it's an obvious statement, but I just thought that someone coming across this material for the first time would probably value the explicit 'spelling out' of things, which I suppose you also see now. In any case, thanks for reverting, and of course feel free to rephrase the sentence if you think it can be improved. 2A01:388:536:110:0:0:1:3 (talk) 01:37, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

You are now a pending changes reviewer and rollbacker!

Hi JeffSpaceman! I've been running into you while patrolling logs and recent changes, and I happened to notice that you don't have the rollback or pending changes reviewer user rights. I hope you don't mind, but I went through your contributions and I noticed that you're quite active in recent changes patrolling, and that you consistently view and undo vandalism and bad faith disruption. I believe that these user rights would be useful for you to have and that you'd make good use of both tools. Instead of having you formally request these user rights at WP:PERM, I went ahead and just gave them to you. These user rights allow you to review edits that are pending approval on pages currently under pending changes protection, as well as to quickly revert the edits of other users in cases of blatant vandalism.

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I'm sure you'll do fine with these user rights - they're pretty straight-forward and they don't drastically change the interface that you're used to already. Nonetheless, please don't hesitate to leave me a message on my user talk page if you run into any questions, get stuck anywhere, run into any issues or problems, or if you're not sure if the use of either tool is appropriate or not and need my input or advice - I'll be more than happy to help you any time you need it. If you no longer want one or both of these user rights, let me know and I'll be happy to remove them for you. Thank you for helping to locate, revert, and remove vandalism, as well as review and keep disruptive edits off of Wikipedia - it's a very thankless job to perform and I want you to know that it doesn't go unnoticed and that I appreciate it very much. Happy editing! :-D ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:55, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Bad rollback

Hi Jeff - this rollback restored the vandalism that A-trolley-in-a-wiki removed (and understandably upset them somewhat). Please slow down and check each rollback you make ~TNT (she/her • talk) 00:26, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

To add to this, unfortunately it appears that it caused them to leave Wikipedia. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 02:32, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

I'm very sorry. I guess I thought it was vandalism when I reverted it, seeing as how changing "soup" to "sewage" in most contexts I would consider to be vandalism -- my intention was never to alienate anybody, and I'm very sorry. JeffSpaceman (talk) 13:17, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Mistakes happen, and the world hasn't ended so it can't be all bad! ~TNT (she/her • talk) 13:25, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

I understand that it was a simple mistake, but at the same time, I also don't want to upset or alienate users editing in good faith by accident. I do thank you for your politeness on this matter, since I do like being told if I've made a mistake so I can learn from it. JeffSpaceman (talk) 13:29, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

It's an easy one to make, and I'm sure I've done it plenty of times before - the best advice I can give is if you're ever unsure, don't use rollback and instead edit the article. That way you're more likely to spot the context if you were about to make a mistake ~TNT (she/her • talk) 14:31, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice. I usually edit via Rollback since I typically just revert obvious vandalism or unsourced claims, but that's actually a very good point you drive at for when I'm unsure. Typically, in those situations, I leave the article alone, but I think I was thrown off by a mixture of the word replacement and an edit summary that, out of context, looked like a vandalistic edit summary. Once again, I do thank you for your advice. JeffSpaceman (talk) 15:22, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Apologies for butting in but I really like the advice the essay you linked gives, look at pictures of cute animals instead of starting an ANI thread (I don't even know why I'm still watching ANI). Also, I see your thoughts, you saw them change soup to sewage and assumed it was vandalism because in most cases it is. I've made my fair share of mistakes (sometimes i even forget rollback included in most semi-automated tools undos all the edits an editor has made up until the last edit by a different editor, after which I have to go through and add back the content that I meant to keep). ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 13:13, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

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	Thank you for your anti-vandalism work at Stuart Attwell & Happy New Years! Jerm (talk) 15:09, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

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Epic Mickey

The change I made was already cited, just the description of the citation was wrong. 100.40.220.189 (talk) 15:11, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know. I have reverted it back. JeffSpaceman (talk) 15:12, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

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Kanye West lead section

Hey, I appreciate your edits and your good intentions, but we have to get this right. Strictly speaking, [...], resulting in further controversy is not currently supported by the article body. If you can find a reliable source that supports a causal link between West's statements in the InfoWars interview resulting in "further controversy", please include it in the article body. If not, I strongly suggest removing that part from the lead again. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 19:59, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

OK, yes, good point. I think I was trying a bit too hard to expand the sentence, without considering the fact that a reliable source was needed there. Thank you for pointing that out. JeffSpaceman (talk) 20:36, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. Although now the sentence again reads as though the statements happened before the brands dropped him. Can we just separate the sentence so it reads: He later publicly praised Adolf Hitler and denied the Holocaust in December 2022? Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 20:44, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Done. JeffSpaceman (talk) 20:54, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!

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		Thank you for your patrolling, keep up the good work - 𝑭𝒊𝒍𝒎𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔 (talk) 15:58, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

April 2023

A ridiculous cat

Please excuse my erroneous edit, likely a mistaken rollback or revert caused by my fat fingers, hypnagogia, or one of my ridiculous cats. I have likely self reverted or noticed the mistake after you corrected it. Again, my apologies. Thank you. EvergreenFir (talk) 15:55, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

May 2023

Hello, I'm Sundayclose. I noticed that you recently removed content from Ticket to Ride (song) without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. The hatnote is intended for those looking for a DIFFERENT article with a similar title. By removing it, you made it more difficult to navigate Wikipedia. Sundayclose (talk) 21:07, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

With all due respect, since you clearly reverted my edit in good faith, the hatnote does not belong on a page that has been disambiguated. The Ticket to Ride disambiguation page is where people can look for a different article with a similar title. That is where people can navigate articles with similar titles. Ticket to Ride (song) has a clear distinction in the article title, and thus the hatnote does not belong there. JeffSpaceman (talk) 21:36, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Ah!!! My brain cell must have stopped working for a few minutes. You're right. I don't know what I was thinking. Anyway, apologies and thanks for the message. Sundayclose (talk) 22:18, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

No problem, accidents happen. Thank you for your civility here, I appreciate it. JeffSpaceman (talk) 22:33, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

You're so fast!

Hi Jeff. Thanks for the 'thank' a few minutes ago. I'm currently enrolled in the Anti Vandalism Academy and am progressing through the training. I've started using Huggle to identify possibly vandalism but every page I go to you have already reverted the vandalism! I have to ask: what are you using to identify possible vandalism edits?? Cheers Cabrils (talk) 13:39, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello, sorry for the late reply. To revert vandalism (or any other problematic edits I spot on recent changes), I use Twinkle. Given that you are an older user than me, I'd assume you've heard about it, but if you don't know what it is, it's a tool that allows me to quickly revert edits that, for one reason or another, should not continue to stay up (vandalism, addition of unsourced content, NPOV violations, etc): in addition, it provides me with a set of user welcome and warning messages, in case I feel the need to do either. It's proven to be very useful in the nearly three years that I have been on here, and is probably my favorite tool that I have access to here. I'd definitely recommend it, if you haven't tried it. JeffSpaceman (talk) 18:05, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Jeff, I do use Twinkle too, but I suspect I've only scratched the surface of its abilities. Thanks for the info, I will dig deeper. All the best, Cabrils (talk) 22:53, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Bill O'Reilly (political commentator)

2 comments:

• The cricketeer is truly a major historic figure in cricket, similar in stature to Willie Mays or Jack Nicklaus. And since cricket's so big outside the Americas, I suspect the consensus will evolve to keeping the page as is, independently of HiLo48's Yankeephobia.
• At Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:HiLo48 and incivility, I encouraged you to ignore HiLo48. I didn't mean to blow off your concerns, I was just trying to be helpful to you. I expect an admin may sanction HiLo48.

Thanks for what you do around here. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 14:24, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

I don't mind if the page is kept as is, this was merely a proposal -- one that, based on how discussion is going, seems to be against my motion, but consensus is consensus, and I won't argue too much with that if people can prove that the cricketer is as or more notable than the political commentator. I appreciate your politeness about this matter. JeffSpaceman (talk) 15:19, 4 July 2023 (UTC)