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Happy editing! Kj cheetham (talk) 23:12, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Moves and redirects

Thank you for, I hope you are enjoying editing on Wikipedia. When you move/rename articles, please be mindful of double redirects or navboxes at the bottom of articles. The navboxes will need to be updated too with the new link for the article, so that the article appears in bold in the navbox when on the article page. I've updated a few navboxes, but I'm sure there are more. Best regards Pjposullivan (talk) 16:31, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

And while we're discussing redirects, linking directly to one is acceptable in the run of articles. See WP:NOTBROKEN for additional details. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:08, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes, when it comes to It Is Well with My Soul/It Is Well, I thought about making the dab page there, but ended up leaving the primary redirect. 162 etc. (talk) 21:23, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

May 2021

Welcome to Wikipedia. Editors are expected to treat each other with respect and civility. On this encyclopedia project, editors assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not appear to do at List of the 100 largest municipalities in Canada by population. Here is Wikipedia's welcome page, and it is hoped that you will assume the good faith of other editors and continue to help us improve Wikipedia! Thank you very much! It's rose gold! (T?) 19:51, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

• @RoseGold1250: I certainly would assume that good faith motivated your revert; however, I believe it is in error. The deleted tables do not belong in an article named List of the 100 largest municipalities in Canada by population, a list should be a list. I invite you to join me at Talk:List of the 100 largest municipalities in Canada by population to discuss. 162 etc. (talk) 19:55, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

(single album)

16:17, 24 May 2021 diff hist +288‎ Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests ‎ →‎Uncontroversial technical requests current 16:14, 24 May 2021 diff hist +73‎ Spring ‎ →‎Albums and EPs current 16:13, 24 May 2021 diff hist +87‎ N Talk:Spring (Park Bom single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Talk:Spring (Park Bom single album) to Talk:Spring (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named Spring current Tag: New redirect 16:13, 24 May 2021 diff hist 0‎ m Talk:Spring (single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Talk:Spring (Park Bom single album) to Talk:Spring (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named Spring current 16:13, 24 May 2021 diff hist 0‎ m Spring (Park Bom single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Spring (Park Bom single album) to Spring (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named Spring 16:08, 24 May 2021 diff hist +17‎ Power ‎ →‎Albums current 16:07, 24 May 2021 diff hist −6‎ Power (B.A.P EP) ‎ ←Changed redirect target from Power (B.A.P single album) to Power (single album) current Tag: Redirect target changed 16:06, 24 May 2021 diff hist 0‎ m Talk:Power (B.A.P single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Talk:Power (B.A.P single album) to Talk:Power (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named Power 16:06, 24 May 2021 diff hist +81‎ N Power (B.A.P single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Power (B.A.P single album) to Power (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named Power current Tag: New redirect 16:06, 24 May 2021 diff hist 0‎ m Power (single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Power (B.A.P single album) to Power (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named Power current 16:05, 24 May 2021 diff hist +29‎ Lollipop (disambiguation) ‎ →‎Arts, entertainment, and media current 16:04, 24 May 2021 diff hist −7‎ Lollipop (Imfact song) ‎ ←Changed redirect target from Lollipop (Imfact single album) to Lollipop (single album) current Tag: Redirect target changed 16:03, 24 May 2021 diff hist +89‎ N Talk:Lollipop (Imfact single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Talk:Lollipop (Imfact single album) to Talk:Lollipop (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named Lollipop current Tag: New redirect 16:03, 24 May 2021 diff hist 0‎ m Talk:Lollipop (single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Talk:Lollipop (Imfact single album) to Talk:Lollipop (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named Lollipop current 16:03, 24 May 2021 diff hist +84‎ N Lollipop (Imfact single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Lollipop (Imfact single album) to Lollipop (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named Lollipop current Tag: New redirect 16:03, 24 May 2021 diff hist 0‎ m Lollipop (single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Lollipop (Imfact single album) to Lollipop (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named Lollipop current 16:02, 24 May 2021 diff hist −17‎ m A (disambiguation) ‎ →‎Albums current 16:00, 24 May 2021 diff hist +294‎ Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests ‎ →‎Requests to revert undiscussed moves 15:56, 24 May 2021 diff hist −18‎ m A (disambiguation) ‎ →‎Albums 15:56, 24 May 2021 diff hist +82‎ N Talk:A (Big Bang single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Talk:A (Big Bang single album) to Talk:A (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named A current Tag: New redirect 15:56, 24 May 2021 diff hist 0‎ m Talk:A (single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Talk:A (Big Bang single album) to Talk:A (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named A current 15:56, 24 May 2021 diff hist +77‎ N A (Big Bang single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page A (Big Bang single album) to A (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named A current Tag: New redirect 15:56, 24 May 2021 diff hist 0‎ m A (single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page A (Big Bang single album) to A (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named A current 15:54, 24 May 2021 diff hist +9‎ Flashback ‎ →‎Music current 15:53, 24 May 2021 diff hist −13‎ Flashback (After School song) ‎ ←Changed redirect target from Flashback (After School single album) to Flashback (single album) current Tag: Redirect target changed 15:52, 24 May 2021 diff hist +90‎ N Talk:Flashback (After School single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Talk:Flashback (After School single album) to Talk:Flashback (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named Flashback current Tag: New redirect 15:52, 24 May 2021 diff hist 0‎ m Talk:Flashback (single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Talk:Flashback (After School single album) to Talk:Flashback (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named Flashback current 15:52, 24 May 2021 diff hist +85‎ N Flashback (After School single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Flashback (After School single album) to Flashback (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named Flashback current Tag: New redirect 15:52, 24 May 2021 diff hist 0‎ m Flashback (single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Flashback (After School single album) to Flashback (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named Flashback current 15:51, 24 May 2021 diff hist +9‎ m Hush ‎ →‎Albums current 15:49, 24 May 2021 diff hist +271‎ Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests ‎ →‎Uncontroversial technical requests 15:44, 24 May 2021 diff hist −9‎ E (disambiguation) ‎ →‎Music current 15:43, 24 May 2021 diff hist −9‎ E (Big Bang album) ‎ ←Changed redirect target from E (Big Bang single album) to E (single album) current Tag: Redirect target changed 15:41, 24 May 2021 diff hist +82‎ N Talk:E (Big Bang single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Talk:E (Big Bang single album) to Talk:E (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named E current Tag: New redirect 15:41, 24 May 2021 diff hist 0‎ m Talk:E (single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Talk:E (Big Bang single album) to Talk:E (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named E current 15:41, 24 May 2021 diff hist +77‎ N E (Big Bang single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page E (Big Bang single album) to E (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named E current Tag: New redirect 15:41, 24 May 2021 diff hist 0‎ m E (single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page E (Big Bang single album) to E (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named E current 15:38, 24 May 2021 diff hist +400‎ Talk:R. (album) ‎ →‎Requested move 24 May 2021 current 15:33, 24 May 2021 diff hist +215‎ Talk:0 (album) ‎ →‎Requested move 24 May 2021 15:32, 24 May 2021 diff hist +24‎ m 0 (album) ‎ current 15:28, 24 May 2021 diff hist +63‎ D (disambiguation) ‎ →‎Albums current 15:27, 24 May 2021 diff hist +82‎ N Talk:D (Big Bang single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Talk:D (Big Bang single album) to Talk:D (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named D current Tag: New redirect 15:27, 24 May 2021 diff hist 0‎ m Talk:D (single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Talk:D (Big Bang single album) to Talk:D (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named D current 15:27, 24 May 2021 diff hist +77‎ N D (Big Bang single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page D (Big Bang single album) to D (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named D current Tag: New redirect 15:27, 24 May 2021 diff hist 0‎ m D (single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page D (Big Bang single album) to D (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB; only single album named D current 15:23, 24 May 2021 diff hist +66‎ Bird (disambiguation) ‎ →‎Albums current 15:22, 24 May 2021 diff hist +92‎ N Talk:Boing Boing (April single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Talk:Boing Boing (April single album) to Talk:Boing Boing (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB current Tag: New redirect 15:22, 24 May 2021 diff hist 0‎ m Talk:Boing Boing (single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Talk:Boing Boing (April single album) to Talk:Boing Boing (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB current 15:22, 24 May 2021 diff hist +87‎ N Boing Boing (April single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Boing Boing (April single album) to Boing Boing (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB current Tag: New redirect 15:22, 24 May 2021 diff hist 0‎ m Boing Boing (single album) ‎ 162 etc. moved page Boing Boing (April single album) to Boing Boing (single album): WP:ALBUMDAB current

This is a lot of moves.

Can you please use WP:RM to remove artist names from articles. Thank you. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:21, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

@In ictu oculi: These are all uncontroversial. WP:ALBUMDAB is clear: a single album is a distinct type, and does not require additional disambiguation. 162 etc. (talk) 16:25, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

@In ictu oculi: I see you are reverting these, can you please explain your justification? 162 etc. (talk) 16:34, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Considering the nonsense opposes at Talk:Big Bang (2006 single album) I have no opinion on the title. And simply ignore the user above. They are known for gaming the system and chicken out when confronted. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 04:48, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

I reverted them because I believe that they justify RMs. They do not improve WP:CRITERIA for the reader. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:49, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

@In ictu oculi: I don't believe that reverting article moves that are explicitly supported by a Wikipedia naming convention is a good idea, and hope that you consider undoing these reverts. 162 etc. (talk) 15:01, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Laverlochère-Angliers

Please note that if you want to propose a merger of Laverlochère and Angliers into Laverlochère-Angliers, the process isn't just "template the pages and walk away" — you also need to post a section to Talk:Laverlochère-Angliers to explain why you're proposing the merger, so that there's something for people to discuss. If you don't do that, then the only thing that will happen is that the templates will eventually be removed from the pages as unactionable due to lack of discussion. Bearcat (talk) 12:42, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

• @Bearcat: Canadian cities and towns' articles are usually named after the municipal government's name; since these are two small towns which recently merged and are not notable enough for separate articles, the merge seems pretty uncontroversial. I just didn't feel like doing it myself. 162 etc. (talk) 16:08, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Explaining it to me here isn't the point. The process requires there to be a merger proposal posted to the talk page of the target article for discussion, and the merger will simply never happen at all if you don't post a proposal to the talk page of the target article, because that's how the merger process works. If you don't, the only thing that will ever happen is the templates getting removed from the articles without action, because no proposal was posted to the talk page of the target article for anybody to take any action on. Bearcat (talk) 19:39, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

I just moved it. 162 etc. (talk) 21:19, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

"Ricoh Arena"

In future, if you have an issue with one of my edits, please try talking to me about it on my talk page before running to the Sysops boards. Would be appreciated, thanks c87d98b10 02:00, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

• @C87d98b10: Ricoh Arena was at WP:RM 2 weeks ago and there was no consensus to move. Reverting your article move was the only thing to do in this situation. Please assume good faith. 162 etc. (talk) 15:52, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

my reply here covers why the page move was correct by me -- As for assuming good faith, you're going out of your way to have an article with an incorrect title on Wikipedia, doing so in a deceptive way going behind my back to a Sysop board too. No post on the article talk page questioning the move, no post on my talk page questioning the move, just straight to technical boards looking for a Sysop or a rollbacker to revert without even giving me a chance to have a say or defend myself. So yeah, I won't be taking advice on assuming good faith from yourself, when clearly it was not something that you saw fit to assume of me. This will be my final interaction with you regarding the matter. c87d98b10 23:46, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Moving an article when an RM indicated that there is no community consensus to do so is definitely something that warrants an immediate revert. Please familiarize yourself with WP:RM. 162 etc. (talk) 16:32, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Joe Hall

Hi 162 etc.

When I do page moves I generally follow WP:Be bold. I think nobody wins if every page move goes through the full discussion process. Occasionally I come across users who have a strong feeling about article names. I am happy happy to go through a discussion in these cases. I guess you are mainly concerned about Joe Hall rather than Robert McIntyre and Roger Cardinal. If that is correct, I suggest either me or you put him up for a move discussion after your "Requests to revert undiscussed moves" have been looked at. As I have been wondering about primary topic definition for people who are known by their nickname rather than their proper name, I am looking forward to the outcome. Inwind (talk) 16:16, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

@Inwind: I thank you for your edits and hope you take no offense by me nominating these reverts. I too will often make bold edits to follow WP:NOPRIMARY. You are correct that of the three, Joe Hall is the one who has the highest long-term notability. I will gladly participate in any discussion that arises. 162 etc. (talk) 17:57, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

It looks as if nobody likes to touch the "Requests to revert undiscussed moves". I suggest to remove all three requests and start a proper move discussion on Joe Hall. Would that be alright with you ? Inwind (talk) 09:04, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

KKR

Please drop your ongoing campaign of piping all KKR links to Kohlberg Kravis Roberts. You obviously believe that KKR should be a disambiguation page, but your attempt to have this applied was unsuccessful, so please respect the consensus and the WP:NOTBROKEN rules. Platneua (talk) 06:09, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

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Merging ITHF and ITHF table hockey

Why? It is against standard practice, in which the articles about governing organizations and kinds of sport are different. And I no see any sense for it. Besides, it is not did in another languages and, consequently, in Wikidata. --Egilus (talk) 17:13, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

My argument is that the sport is not different. There is only one article for Ice hockey, not "NHL ice hockey" and "IIHF ice hockey", for example. I encourage you to discuss at the article's talk page rather than here so that other editors can contribute as well. 162 etc. (talk) 17:16, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Nur-Sultan, Requested move 8th and 9th October 2021

At Talk:Nur-Sultan#Requested move 9 October 2021 you asked what was going on. This is all to do with a requested move at Talk:Allahabad#Requested move 20 September 2021. TrangaBellam was the editor who performed closure on the move. Tecumseh*1301 is an editor who favoured moving the article on Allahabad to another name. In his/her arguments for such a move, Tecumseh*1301 repeatedly said that the position was similar to Astana being moved to Nur-Sultan (which happened on 4 May 2019‎). Having not got the result he/she wanted at Allahabad, Tecumseh*1301 did two things: (1) he/she asked for a move review, and (2) has proposed that the article on Nur-Sultan be moved back to Astana, making much the same arguments for the move as were made to oppose the move from Allahabad to another name. This is where Wikipedia:Do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point comes in.-- Toddy1 (talk) 20:53, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

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@Dan arndt: Fixed it for you. 162 etc. (talk) 06:07, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

List of Epic Meal Time episodes

Hello, 162 etc.,

I de-PROD'd this article because you failed to inform the page creator, who is still an active editor, about this deletion tagging. If you use Twinkle, an editing tool, any time you tag a page for any type of deletion (CSD, PROD, AFD/RFD/TFD/etc.), Twinkle will post these talk page notifications for you once you set up your Twinkle Preferences to "Notify page creator". These notifications are one step of the deletion process that can't be skipped over plus it is just common courtesy, especially with a PROD because it is possible for an editor to address concerns raised in the PROD deletion rationale. If you decide to nominate this page for deletion at AFD, please remember to notify the page creator.

Twinkle will also provide an appropriate edit summary for you. Any time you PROD an article or file, you should state this in the edit summary so that, if the page gets de-PROD'd, other editors can know it has already been PROD'd before. Thank you.

@Liz:@Areaseven: That's fine. I still think it's unreferenced and not notable. 162 etc. (talk) 23:30, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Not discussing page move of Bonnie Lee Bakley

I have undone your undiscussed page move of Bonnie Lee Bakley to Killing of Bonnie Lee Bakley on the grounds that WP:BIO1E does not apply, and even if it did, there is a caveat that allows for a separate biography. My full explanation is on the talk page. However, one consequence of a page move like this is that a biography needs to be rewritten as a crime this is going to be controversial if the article is a long standing or full fledged biography that covers the person's life. In this case, the move should have been discussed, first. I distinguish this from similar moves about the same time to articles about Abraham Grünbaum, Milan Pantić and Jennifer Servo because in those articles there is minimal biographical content prior to death. However, in the case of Jennifer Servo I would have recommended discussing that move, too, because a previous notability discussion indicated WP:BIO1E did not apply, although this is not clear from the article. I hope this assist you in deciding how best to approach page moves in the future. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 00:39, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hi, thanks for your contributions. WP:BRD applies to pagemoves as well, and it seems like the process is working as it should. 162 etc. (talk) 00:44, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
  • True, that is why I chose to discuss the issue, too. However, you might want to also consider WP:TITLECHANGES in the future, (which I spotted today), this piece of advice indicates changing the title of an article is likely to be a controversial one after an article ceases to be a stub or has been stable for a long time. There are times to Be Bold, though one should also take care when ignoring any rules. In other words: If it ain't broke, don't fix it, neither arbitrarily, nor just to follow a pattern; but do it to improve Wikipedia. Anyway, this little exercise proved useful as it informed me about everything I needed to consider when changing article titles, today, in the Parkinson case. Thank you for your inadvertent help! It proved useful. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 08:03, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Xudun

Hi, I was wondering why the Xudun, Somalia page hasn't been moved to Xudun yet? I don't believe there are any issues that would prevent this move from happening. Thank you. Subayerboombastic (talk) 03:57, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

• @Subayerboombastic: It appears that you've instead proposed a move to Hudun. I'm not a local expert, so neutral on Xudun/Hudun; my comment at WP:RMT was simply that the "Somaliland" tag was superfluous. 162 etc. (talk) 16:50, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

@162 etc.: Yes, I agree with you that adding Somaliland to the title would be unnecessary. However, it appears both Hudun and Xudun are disambiguation pages so either way it would be required. Either that or one of the disambiguation pages would need to be deleted, which seems more controversial. I believe this is the reason the page was moved in 2012 from Xudun to Xudun, Somalia. Back then the region was under Puntland control and most towns were labeled as such. However now all this areas have been under Somalilands control and other articles have been debated and amended to reflect that. As for the spelling, Hudun is the English spelling and Xudun is the Somali spelling. The vast majority of the cities and towns in the region use the English spelling in the title, so it makes sense to keep that consistent throughout. Subayerboombastic (talk) 21:07, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

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Ratchet

Just FYI, the RM at Talk:Ratchet (device) has been changed in a way that might affect your comment there. (It certainly did mine.) Station1 (talk) 06:36, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

DEATHS RMs

Hi 162 etc. Thanks for your batch RM at what's now Talk:Killing of Andy Lopez. You intimated that you might continue working through similarly titled articles in future RMs. Would you please ping me if you do so? I think doing so would be permissible per the "Editors who have asked to be kept informed" clause of WP:APPNOTE, but if this slips too close to canvassing for you, a neutral notice at WT:DEATHS would also work. Thanks! Firefangledfeathers 03:25, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

March 2022

Hello, I noticed that you may have recently made edits to PMA while logged out. Wikipedia's policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow the use of both an account and an IP address by the same person in the same setting and doing so may result in your account being blocked from editing. Additionally, making edits while logged out reveals your IP address, which may allow others to determine your location and identity. If this was not your intention, please remember to log in when editing. Thank you. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:43, 7 March 2022 (UTC**

• No sockpuppetry intended. My IP is disclosed on my user page. 162 etc. (talk) 16:45, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Still I don't think you should be editing while logged out if you have an account. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:46, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

WP:LOGOUT doesn't prohibit it. IPs can make productive edits too, please don't just revert everything :) 162 etc. (talk) 16:55, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) 162, I agree with you completely that your editing here is permissible per WP:LOGOUT. If you wanted to go over and above, you might consider noting in the edit summary when you're editing an article as both a registered user and an IP in close succession. Otherwise, you may be unintentionally misleading other editors into thinking your positions have more support than they do. It's unlikely that they'd think to check your user page. Firefangledfeathers (talk | contribs) 17:27, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Also, 162, if you had cited the guidelines you did earlier then I wouldn't have reverted you so much since not only are redlinks usually perfectly fine but pipelinks are as well. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:42, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Don't Leave (Simba Tagz song)

A few weeks ago you nominated the song "Don't Leave" for deletion and the discussion has been closed in a disappointing fashion. I have renewed the discussion here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don't Leave (Simba Tagz song) (2nd nomination). ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 18:18, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

• @Doomsdayer520: While I agree with you that the article should be deleted, starting a new AfD immediately after the first one has closed is bad etiquette. WP:DRV would be the preferred way to dispute the outcome. 162 etc. (talk) 21:27, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Speaking of bad etiquette, the closing admin in the first AfD gave no evidence that they did anything beyond count votes. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 23:53, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

You could make that argument at a deletion review, yes. 162 etc. (talk) 00:06, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Enlighten me

As to how this isn't proper? Boldly redirecting something that's sat unsourced (and is a plot copyvio) for the better part of a decade is precisely in line with WP:BOLD. Are you going to source it? PRAXIDICAE💕 19:45, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

• I've PROD'd it. It's not a good article, and it should probably go, but the pseudo-merge ahead of your RM didn't really seem above-board to me. 162 etc. (talk) 19:48, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

That's not the point, labeling perfectly fine edits as improper when an editor has chosen to redirect instead of going the overly-bureaucratic route isn't actually improper. No one said anything about an RM. Redirects are perfectly fine per WP:BOLD and there was nothing sourced or neutral to merge anywhere and I had no intention of starting an RM, so I haven't got a single clue what you're talking about as there is no move involved. Where exactly did you get the idea that I was starting an RM, especially considering I can't recall ever once even starting an RM? Oh and lastly, deleting it is useless when the second book is notable so it stands to reason that a redirect would be perfectly useful. PRAXIDICAE💕 19:59, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Ah my bad, the RM was actually somebody else. Anyway, reverts are a part of WP:BRD, and it seems like the process is working as it should. 162 etc. (talk) 20:03, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Not really when you force an overly burecractic process toward deletion that shouldn't be deleted but kept as a useful redirect. PRAXIDICAE💕 20:06, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Blocks preventing my proofs per WP:GNG & WP:V

None of the info there is fan-based as you claim. I suggest you take this to the admins and get consensus on how to mend those "rules" as ST47ProxyBot is preventing me from demonstrating a perceived "fansite" article here on WP. I felt that the text in the "Overly detailed" template (as you feel that it's a bad etiquette from me.) meant that the section is for promotion. for the sources, they are there. But as I'm under series upon series of I.P. address blocks by the bot for that, you may/will think otherwise. I've complained to others on similar instances and grounds and they've understood. It ain't your fault or mine that per WP:GNG, you should see non-"fansite" info without proof per WP:v. I see that you've brought it back, so I'll work on them and remove it again later. I thought WP is more than just education and "all-seriousness". Intrisit (talk) 17:22, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This is a reply to this talk page comment 162 etc. (talk) 18:32, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Autopatrolled granted

Hi 162 etc., I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. However, you should consider adding relevant wikiproject talk-page templates, stub-tags and categories to new articles that you create if you aren't already in the habit of doing so, since your articles will no longer be systematically checked by other editors (User:Evad37/rater and User:SD0001/StubSorter.js are useful scripts which can help). Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 07:58, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Archiving notice

Hey! During your moving of Talk:The Saint (Asbury Park, New Jersey), you forgot to update the archive location. All you need to do is adjust the |archive= parameter in the {{User:MiszaBot/Config}} template to the new page name. Don't worry, I've fixed this for you. Just keep this in mind if you move a page in the future. Thanks! Aidan9382 _(talk) 17:14, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Only Death Is Real (album)

Are you going to start a discussion about Only Death Is Real, which has multiple reviews? Please {{ping}} me when you respond. Jax 0677 (talk) 23:20, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

• @Jax 0677: Thanks for improving the article with references. I'm still not sure if it meets WP:NALBUM, but I don't have strong feelings about it either way. 162 etc. (talk) 16:56, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

• Reply - In that case, I am going to remove the merge tag, unless someone wants to start some type of discussion. --Jax 0677 (talk) 21:27, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Wild Card frustrations

Howdy. You're likely going to find (for reasons I can't explain) that editors are unwilling or unable to come to an agreement, concerning nearly anything to do with the Major League Baseball Wild Card & Major League Baseball Wild Card Game pages. GoodDay (talk) 22:04, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Second PROD

Please read Talk:Slow Dance (poem)#Second PROD and I suggest reply there, but it can be here if you prefer. Andrewa (talk) 12:40, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Queens Plate

A contested technical move request on which you commented is now at Talk:Queens Plate. - Station1 (talk) 17:20, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Roland (Japanese host) moved to Roland (entertainer)

Hello, and thank you for trying to help with the article. I'm not sure if 'entertainer' is the best description for this individual - he is at least as active as a businessperson as he is in any form of entertainment. I had added the host tag, as he is mainly known as such specifically. Could you help think of a more accurate description? Thanks, Londonbeat41692 (talk) 00:50, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for reaching out. It's impossible to summarize somebody's entire life in one word - yet that's what we have to do when picking disambiguation tags :)

I moved the article because "Japanese host" is overly detailed (there is no Roland (host) article) and "entertainer" is a standard form recommended by WP:SINGERDAB. Of course, he is also involved in business, but I wouldn't say that "businessman" is more accurate.

For example, Drake (musician) is also a successful businessman (OVO Sound) and worked as an actor (Degrassi: The Next Generation), but he is best known as a musician, so we narrow it down to that. 162 etc. (talk) 15:25, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

"Gold (radio network)" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Nomination of Lamberghini for deletion

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Deprodding of Calcium Lime Rust

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Speedy deletion nomination of Bing Bong

Hello 162 etc.,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Bing Bong for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly indicate why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

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Josey Wales ^Parley 20:05, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Reverted good-faith edit; the page had been vandalized. Bing Bong is a useful redirect to the dabpage at Bing-bong. 162 etc. (talk) 20:10, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you

		The Invisible Barnstar
		I'm surprised to see that the good work you've been doing for a while has been under-recognized. Thank you for your many well-reasoned contributions to requested move discussions. I'm grateful also for all the disambiguation pages (>100) and redirects (>1000) you've created. I'm sure our readers have benefited the effort you've put into pointing them in the right direction. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:55, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

NERO (video game)

Hello, 162 etc,

If you expect to do more Proposed deletion tagging, a couple of things to put in mind. First, like making a nomination at AFD, you need to provide a deletion rationale for why this article or file should be deleted. Just writing "[[WP:N]]" isn't sufficient. Write at least one complete sentence to justify why this article merits deletion, just posting a code to a policy guidelines is not an explanation. Speedy deletion allows you to tag pages for deletion with just a reference to a criteria for speedy deletion but PRODs and AFDs require editors to make an argument why a page should be deleted. It doesn't need to be long, but it has to be more than [[WP:N]].

Second, you need to leave a descriptive edit summaries. PRODs can be de-PRODed. If, years later, another editor decides to PROD the article again, they need to be able to see that it has already been PROD'd once and the way they can see this is by looking at the edit summaries in the page history. This is made more difficult if you don't leave any edit summary at all! So, just write, "Proposing article for PROD" or even just "PROD" in your edit summary when you tag a page for Proposed deletion.

Finally, these processes are made easier if you start using Twinkle to tag pages for deletion or to tag them for other reasons. Twinkle is an editing tool most page patrollers and a lot of administrators use. For example, once you set up your Twinkle Preferences to "Notify page creator", then Twinkle will post a deletion notice on the page creator's talk page for you. It will also leave a descriptive edit summary so you don't need to type one out. It remembers all of the codes and templates so you don't have to searching for the right one to use. It will maintain deletion logs for you. You can report vandals to noticeboards using Twinkle. It is very handy and I encourage you to try it out if you aren't already using it.

Just a few comments. Thank you for all of the work you are doing on the project! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:49, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

P.S. If you want to see some example of typical PROD deletion rationales offered by other editors, look over the list of upcoming Proposed deletions at User:DumbBOT/ProdSummary and you can see what I'm referring to. Some of these examples are better than others but you can see that the typical deletion rationale is at least a sentence. Thanks again. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:52, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

WWE Day 1 (2022)

Hello 162 etc. I declined the technical move that you proposed. Though I admit that the original actor, User:Zk911912, should have sought consensus, anything that I can do now risks making a mess. Also, in your report you stated that someone had done merges. I couldn't see any merges. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 17:03, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

@EdJohnston: The mess has been made, I'm afraid; all three of these were separate articles, and were (somewhat messily) merged into what is currently WWE Day 1 (2022). With all due respect to your good-faith attempt to resolve this, I've re-added the request to WP:RMT. 162 etc. (talk) 17:22, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Luke Menzies

Hi. There is a move request in Talk:Luke Menzies. Can you give your opinion? Thanks. Margarte00 (talk) 16:15, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the ping. I have to say that I'm not familiar enough with rugby (where Menzies first established his notability) to say for certain that his ring name is more recognizable than his birth name. 162 etc. (talk) 18:38, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Weezy (disambiguation)

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Super League (virtual sports)

Hello, 162 etc.,

When you tag an article for a Proposed Deletion, please write a more substantial deletion rationale than just WP:N. By that I mean, write at least one full sentence that shows you actually examined the sources or looked for additional sources to improve the article. I have de-PROD'd articles with similarly overly brief deletion rationales but this one did seem to lack notability. But please do this in the future if you wish your PROD deletion nominations to be taken seriously and not de-PROD'd. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:35, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

November 2022

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, articles should not be moved, as you did to Andover railway station, without good reason. They should have a name that is both accurate and intuitive. Wikipedia has some guidelines in place to help with this. Generally, a page should only be moved to a new title if the current name doesn't follow these guidelines. Also, if a page move is being discussed, consensus needs to be reached before anybody moves the page. If you would like to experiment with page titles and moving, please use the test Wikipedia. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. I have added this to the requested moves page, so this will be reverted soon. Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 06:49, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Andover railway station

Hi, the link to this staion on the Southampton railways template is not ambiguous, mit doesn't require the suffix |England. Regards Murgatroyd49 (talk) 09:11, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

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@4meter4 I'm sorry what is this in reference to? I'm not familiar with what you are talking about, I don't think I've ever seen that page... ~ Eejit43 (talk) 04:03, 26 December 2022 (UTC)