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Myrmomancy

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Article has been unsourced since Jan 2007. Notability of topic is in question. Coin945 (talk) 05:49, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Animal-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:50, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well Lewis Spence thinks that it's encyclopaedic, at least, as xe gave it an article in xyr own encyclopaedia. Uncle G (talk) 09:26, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Gah! I take this back. I peered at the blurred letters again, and I think that it actually says myomancy, the one with mice. Mice! Uncle G (talk) 23:50, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep, the nominator does not propose a valid WP:DEL-REASON. The nominator does not say which notability guideline this article fails to meet. SailingInABathTub (talk) 10:25, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. While the deletion nominator may have done a poor job of arguing for it, a quick search reveals no sign of notability (nada from GScholar, and nothing reliable or notable from Google). Or a reliable source on the subject. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 17:19, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- That mush have been a very quick search, as it took me about a minute to find the aforementioned encyclopaedia and scroll down its index to find myrmomancy on page 281. It actually took longer to check out the credentials of the author. I can only see the index, though, and I might be misreading the page number as the text is somewhat blurred. Uncle G (talk) 18:47, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'll admit to have paid much more attention to the GScholar search than the Google one (consequence of where I normally edit), but all I got on the Google search were some highly questionable blogs/how-to New Age-y websites; in other words, nothing that would pass as reliable. I do wonder if any of those mentions predate the Wikipedia article. The below proposal to redirect is reasonable. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 18:18, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    - It turns out that this was the one with mice. Search engine fuzzy matching + anti-aliased fonts + tiny little letters in the first place. Lewis Spence actually wanted to combat the questionable stuff, and would have been fairly reliable had xe had it. I wasn't going for the rubbish WWW sites. ☺ Mice! Uncle G (talk) 23:50, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Methods_of_divination#T, I don't see notability here either. Reywas92^Talk 17:29, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "T"? ☺ It's true that "X is a special kind of Y which in turn is a special kind of Z" does apply to more than just one X, and one book that I found that I wouldn't use, because the author does not seem to be an expert in the field, does give a long laundry list of "-mancy"s. Uncle G (talk) 18:56, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Reywas92. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a dictionary. We do not need seperate articles on every term used when we can describe them in a broader more comprehensive article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:13, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per above, a general lack of demonstrated notability, and a general lack of evidence that this is not a thing which was made up one day. jp×g 07:00, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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 :<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Animal|list of Animal-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Shellwood|Shellwood]] ([[User talk:Shellwood|talk]]) 08:50, 13 April 2021 (UTC)</small>
 *Well [[Lewis Spence]] thinks that it's encyclopaedic, at least, as xe gave it an article in xyr own encyclopaedia. [[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 09:26, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
+**Gah!  I take this back.  I peered at the blurred letters again, and I think that it actually says [[myomancy]], the one with mice.  Mice!  [[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 23:50, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * '''Speedy keep''', the nominator does not propose a valid [[WP:DEL-REASON]]. The nominator does not say which notability guideline this article fails to meet. [[User:SailingInABathTub|SailingInABathTub]] ([[User talk:SailingInABathTub|talk]]) 10:25, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * '''Delete'''. While the deletion nominator may have done a poor job of arguing for it, a quick search reveals no sign of notability (nada from GScholar, and nothing reliable or notable from Google). Or a reliable source on the subject. --[[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]] ([[User talk:SilverTiger12|talk]]) 17:19, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 **That mush have been a ''very'' quick search, as it took me about a minute to find the aforementioned encyclopaedia and scroll down its index to find myrmomancy on page 281.  It actually took longer to check out the credentials of the author.  I can only see the index, though, and I might be misreading the page number as the text is somewhat blurred. [[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 18:47, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 ***I'll admit to have paid much more attention to the GScholar search than the Google one (consequence of where I normally edit), but all I got on the Google search were some highly questionable blogs/how-to New Age-y websites; in other words, nothing that would pass as reliable. I do wonder if any of those mentions predate the Wikipedia article. The below proposal to redirect is reasonable. --[[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]] ([[User talk:SilverTiger12|talk]]) 18:18, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
+****It turns out that this was the one with mice.  Search engine fuzzy matching + anti-aliased fonts + tiny little letters in the first place.  [[Lewis Spence]] actually wanted to combat the questionable stuff, and would have been fairly reliable had xe had it.  I wasn't going for the rubbish WWW sites.  &#9786;  Mice!  [[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 23:50, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * '''Redirect''' to [[Methods_of_divination#T]], I don't see notability here either. [[User:Reywas92|Reywas92]]<sup>[[User talk:Reywas92|Talk]]</sup> 17:29, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 ** "T"?  &#9786;  It's true that "X is a special kind of Y which in turn is a special kind of Z" does apply to more than just one X, and one book that I found that I wouldn't use, because the author does not seem to be an expert in the field, does give a long laundry list of "-mancy"s.  [[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 18:56, 13 April 2021 (UTC)