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The policy cited by the requester is about a band's notability, not how to capitalize a name. I'm pretty sure the current title of the song article matches spelling/capitalization standards. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:46, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Controversial, per above. 162 etc. (talk) 22:00, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cukie Gherkin would you like to bundle this into the discussion you opened at Talk:Characters_of_the_Legend_of_Zelda_series#Requested_move_21_January_2024 since the argument(s) for the move would likely be largely the same? – robertsky (talk) 23:57, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This also seems to be at cross purposes to the other move, which is the capitalize The in the work title, but leave it at "of" instead of "in". To be WP:CONSISTENT, they should be at titles like List of The Legend of Zelda characters and in this case List of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time characters.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  02:31, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It depends on the structure; there are a number of "lists" that are not list-class, like Characters of the Yakuza series, with the basis being whether there is coverage that goes beyond simply listing the characters. Whether it should or should not be at the list, it definitely should not be named "Characters of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time". - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 05:52, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A list article is allowed to have prose at the top... Indeed a FL-class list almost invariably does. It's still basically a list in essence though. That one you mention should be titled "List of Yakuza characters" which solved many issues including removing any need to say "series" at the end and also removing the awkward "Characters of..." construct.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:06, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • 'Abd al-Hamīd ibn Turk (currently a redirect to Ibn Turk) → Ibn Turk (move · discuss) – Make shorter (WP:CONCISE, WP:PRECISE) Aintabli (talk) 19:09, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It may be more concise and precise, but is it the WP:COMMONNAME? Some more evidence is required methinks.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ƒ/8 and be there (currently a redirect to F/8 and be there) → F/8 and be there (move · discuss) – Destination for move is a redirect (with edits) to the original. Requesting a swap of destination (F/8 and be there) be the article, with old article Ƒ/8 and be there be a redirect to the new destination. The original article, with 'hooked Ƒ', even when lowercased with DISPLAYTITLE, is merely a stylistic decoration (implying or looking like a mathematical/formula "function" 'f'). The photographic notation "f/8", "F8", etc., is read as 'eff-eight', and the 'f' is just shorthand for "focal length". It's often displayed as a script-f ('𝑓', Unicode letter U+1D453, "Mathematical small f"), but that's just a stylistic display, equivalent to a LaTeX/math font for 'f'. The article uses 'Ƒ' (Unicode U+0191, "Latin Capital Letter F with Hook"), and lowercases it with 'ƒ' (U+0192, "Latin Small Letter F with Hook"). Additionally, at least two screen readers don't actually read the 'f with hook'. It's typographically, syntactically, and accessibility-wise, simply wrong.  — sbb (talk) 22:57, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Shouldn't the title then be 𝑓/8 and be there, with the commonly-used letter (U+1D453)? 162 etc. (talk) 23:47, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't suggest that. While '𝑓' is stylistically nice, it's just style. The 'f'/'𝑓'/whatever is really just 'f' for "focal length". Compare to f-number. Most articles, blogs, etc., don't even bother with stylizing it anymore. Primarily I assume because it's just that: style. Several lens manufacturers use "F4" or whatever (capitalizing, not using a slash). I think that Wikipedia should try to specifically _reduce_ the emphasis on sort of "branding style" (c.f., "KoЯn", "Se7ven", etc.), and just go with the simplest lowest-common-denominator, which is just "f/8 and be there". Which is exactly what 99.9% of people would type if trying to convey that.  — sbb (talk) 00:17, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Adding to my previous comment, without DISPLAYSTYLE "correcting" the article title, "F/8..." is just as correct as "f/8...", whereas with '𝑓', there's no upper-case variant for it. It's only written as script-f because most historical typesetting used serif fonts, and it's referred to as a variable shorthand for 'focal length'. We don't call the denominator, which is N = f/D, ("8", in this case) '𝒩' (U+1D4A9, "Mathematical Script Capital N") because italic N suffices where N ({{mvar|N}}) isn't typographically available. Similarly with '𝒟' (U+1D49F, "Mathematical Script Capital D"). Let's not over- or misuse Unicode characters when we don't need to. Especially for article titles.  — sbb (talk) 00:35, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry for 3rd reply to you: also, at least testing with Apple (macOS, iOS) Voiceover, the '𝑓' you suggest isn't read by the screen reader. It just says "[tiny gap] /8 and be there ...". So from an accessibility standpoint, '𝑓' doesn't improve the situation at all.  — sbb (talk) 01:02, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Cruise Terminal → Cruise terminal (currently a redirect instead to Maritime passenger terminal) (move · discuss) – Move to title with sentence case. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:47, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This doesn't seem right. The cruise terminal with lowercase is a primary redirect to passenger terminal (maritime) which seems caorrect. Perhaps Cruise Terminal should also redirect, rather than disambiguation against the obscure light rail station, but either way the page should not be moved as specified.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:22, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Af1391: This was a reverted undiscussed move, so needs a full RM. I suggest an RM that discusses all these pages at once, see WP:RMPM for instructions. Polyamorph (talk) 08:38, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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