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Mass-mail subscription list shells

Below is a list of empty shells that are available for use in the mass message subscription list content model. To use one, go to the page, and move it to the title you want. These pages should typically only be moved to the User and Project namespaces. New shells can be created by administrators and template editors.


General Discussions

Holiday greeting requests

I'm reluctant to complete "happy holiday" type mass mailing requests, which mark a holiday but have nothing to do with editing. Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines notes in its lead that talk pages in userspaces are used for discussion and communication between users [and] discussion should be directed solely toward the improvement of the encyclopedia. So I feel that these delve into WP:NOTSOCIALNETWORK. If it was about a holiday edit-a-thon or special main page activity organized for a holiday, that'd be okay. But to send a group of users a message purely related to a holiday (e.g.: this) seems outside the bounds of mass mailings, and when we aren't sure the group observe that holiday it may be perceived as spam. I think these are the sorts of message which might better be delivered user-to-user, personally and in the spirit of Wikipedia:Kindness Campaign. (I tend to receive a couple such messages around New Year's.) Thoughts? – Reidgreg (talk) 16:45, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I sent one of these recently. I was hesitant to do so, but I didn't see that it went against WP:SPAM and sent it anyway. In my opinion, a "happy holiday" mass message is okay every once in a while, but could be considered spam if they are sent routinely. - ZLEA T\C 18:28, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Reidgreg and ZLEA: I have formated the newsletter see Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Newsletter/1 ___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk (We are the champions, my friends) 18:32, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@CAPTAIN MEDUSA: I'd have no problem sending that newsletter, if you want to put that on your request below. (Although I suspect 2015 South Bend, Indiana mayoral election may be a false positive containing "India".) I'd still I'd have to do my due diligence checking the formatting and images, but content-wise it looks good. For the earlier message, maybe it'd be best to post that on the WikiProject India talk page; that way others can add short replies and you may get a little more of a sense of community in well-wishing. – Reidgreg (talk) 22:18, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
These are iffy for sure. If a WikiProject wants to include this as part of its communications it seems a bit more acceptable, if Joe Editor makes a list and adds people to it, not so much. A good factor to review is to look at what is the distribution list, how was it made (was it opt-in?), for opt-in's what did people think they were opting-in to. — xaosflux Talk 18:32, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Xaosflux, How do I get members of the project to join? If they wish to i.e. put an ad on the WikiProject talk page? ___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk (We are the champions, my friends) 18:37, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If the way the project has been communicating is a project talk, then yes - posting there about a new mailing list they can opt-in to is normally accepted. — xaosflux Talk 19:01, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

note re possible technical glitch

I tried to add a request just now, but somehow the template seemed to not display correctly. you can check the edit that I made to add the request, on the page history. can anyone advise? sorry for any technical errors. thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 23:11, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Sm8900: I'm not seeing it in the edit history; maybe the preview looked so bad that you didn't save? When you click on the add request link, it should open an edit window with some pre-generated text. Edit the text between the arrows →← (removing the arrows in the process) to fill-out the request form. The first field (topic) tells us the general context of the request. The second field is the mailing list of intended recipients, the third is the subject of the mailing as it should appear on the destination talk pages, the fourth is the page where you have saved the message you want sent (or the text you want sent if it's a simple message), and the last is the delivery date (mostly used if a request is to be held until a certain date and then sent). For more information, see Wikipedia:Mass message senders § Requesting a mailing. Hope this helps. – Reidgreg (talk) 15:19, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
hi @Reidgreg:. thanks for your reply. here is the link to that edit: Link to edit history. not sure what happened there. I appreciate your help. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 16:04, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Sm8900: Oh, okay. That's Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Mass message sender, you should take it up on that talk page. I'm not an admin, so that's outside my wheelhouse. This forum is for users to request a mass message to be sent, not to request the user right to send mass messages themselves. – Reidgreg (talk) 16:42, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Wikipedia:Newsletters" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Wikipedia:Newsletters. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 December 9#Wikipedia:Newsletters until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. —GMX🎄(on the go!) 15:12, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Opting out of mass messages should not generate new messages of another kind

There is a proposal that affects mass message sending at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Opting out of mass messages should not generate new messages of another kind. Any input on that proposal would be helpful. --Guy Macon (talk) 01:27, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Update mailing list

Would anyone be able to help update this mailing list? When created six months ago, it included all non-blocked users with 10 or more good article reviews (as per here), and 1 or more edits in the last year. Now, I would like to expand the list to all non-blocked users with 5 or more good article reviews, and 1 or more edits in the last year. If someone could help make this update, or let me know how to go about doing so myself, I would appreciate it. (I originally asked Terasail, who created the list, but who also, I now realize, has not edited in the last month.) Thanks, --Usernameunique (talk) 09:12, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Usernameunique: I found Wikipedia:Wikipedians by good article reviews with about 715 editors having 10+ reviews, if that list can somehow be checked against recent edits. Maybe it would be easier to add names that don't already appear on the older list, seeing that they were active since that list was created? I don't have time to investigate further right now. – Reidgreg (talk) 14:45, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Reidgreg, the easiest way may be to start from scratch with all editors having 5+ reviews, and then removing a) editors with no edits in the past year, b) blocked editors, and c) editors who have manually removed themselves from the list. Terasail seemed to use an automated system for the first two steps, and there are only half a dozen who fall into the third category. With that said, the most important part is getting the message out before the drive begins, even if the list is not reformatted by then. Any chance you would be able to get the message out to the existing list, following the steps below? Thanks, --Usernameunique (talk) 18:07, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Willdo... Reidgreg (talk) 21:12, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Glitch?

It looks like the "Welcome to the WikiCup" message has gone out twice to everyone (e.g., here). Not sure who ping about this, but I thought this might be the place. Guettarda (talk) 15:55, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Guettarda: it looks like admin @Cwmhiraeth: sent the message twice (c.f. log a, log b). — xaosflux Talk 16:09, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Xaosflux: Thanks for checking! Guettarda (talk) 17:01, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I apologise. I thought I must have done something wrong when the message did not appear promptly, as it usually does, so I repeated the request. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:37, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Signpost sign-up page

 You are invited to join the discussion at wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Signpost sign-up page. —GMX(on the go!) 20:36, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can I request a mass message in advance?

Hi! I want to send a mass message to WP:FINANCE participants on April 1st. Is this something I can do in advance? A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 20:52, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@A. C. Santacruz: Yes, there's no problem in requesting a MassMessage with the requested delivery date a week away. That gives us lots of time to check it over. It would then be placed 'on hold' until the date arrives. – Reidgreg (talk) 06:12, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Split archives into discussion & requests

I am proposing to split the 6 archives into Wikipedia talk:Mass message senders/Discussions/Archive 1... & Wikipedia talk:Mass message senders/Requests/Archive 1... To make it easier to search through archives for what you are looking for. I am happy to do this myself and set up the archive templates to show both, just looking to see if there are any objections or issues with this change? Thanks, Terasail[✉️] 15:09, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Some pings: User:Reidgreg, User:xaosflux) Terasail[✉️] 15:15, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't really care one way or the other, so long as it is consistent and doesn't break any bots. — xaosflux Talk 15:31, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As I previously discussed, I suggest putting requests on a separate page (either moving them to a new subpage, or moving discussions on a new subpage). Then standard second-level heading archiving by a bot can be used for each, into separate archives. isaacl (talk) 20:23, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe put the page with requests in the Wikipedia namespace, like WP:RM, WP:AfD, WP:CfD, WP:TfD, etc. Perhaps Wikipedia:Mass message senders/Requests with a catchy shortcut. Alternatively, we could move the instructions to a subpage which is transcluded to Wikipedia:Mass message senders, with this main page hosting the requests. This second option would make it easier for requesters to find while keeping the instructions on a separate page to protect them from vandalism. – Reidgreg (talk) 23:31, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MassMessage Delivery Requests

(add request • view requests)

Request for mass message delivery: January 10, 2022

Would someone please deliver this invitation for a online meetup?

Here are the details

Thanks very much! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 05:53, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Theleekycauldron: Should the message have a link to Wikipedia:Meetup/Los Angeles/LA to FA 2022 so that recipients can see the details of the event and sign up? – Reidgreg (talk) 06:50, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Reidgreg: silly me—added, thanks for the catch! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 06:56, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome. Everything seems to be in order now. Image has CC license.  Doing... Reidgreg (talk) 07:00, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes Sent. Seems to have gone out alright, no errors reported, checked five random page and looks good. Reidgreg (talk) 07:15, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thank ya thank ya! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 07:34, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Reidgreg: it sent twice—is there a way to roll that back? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 11:41, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Theleekycauldron: Weird. It's only listed once at Special:Log/massmessage. I checked a few more off the mailing list and they only received it once, though you have it twice with the same timestamp. I did an insource search and found 48 talk pages which seem to have received it twice (search querry). I'll investigate further in a few hours if no one else gets on it by then. – Reidgreg (talk) 14:50, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No idea why it happened, but I went ahead and blanked the duplicate messages. – Reidgreg (talk) 02:08, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Reidgreg: woah, you did that all by hand (with the rv button)? Thank you so much, I really appreciate it :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 04:53, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request for mass message delivery: February 4, 2022

Would someone please deliver WikiProject Colorado online meeting 02/08/2022

Here are the details

Thanks for your assistance!  Buaidh  talk e-mail 03:12, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request for mass message delivery: February 21, 2022

Would someone please deliver {{User:Faster than Thunder/AfC Draft Needing Review|Enzo Enzo}}

Here are the details

Thanks for your assistance! Faster than Thunder (talk) 04:47, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Malformed request: there's no mailing list attached to the request and drafts submitted to AfC don't need unsolicited reviews, they are added to a submissions page and may take three months or more to review. TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:59, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
But what if they end up qualifying under criterion G13 for speedy deletion and an administrator deletes it? Faster than Thunder (talk) 14:58, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Faster than Thunder I am not sure that this is an issue. There are no currently submitted drafts that are over 3 months old, as shown in this section. The current mailing category you have submitted is not approprate since it includes some template and wikipedia pages, as well as messaging ~570 users each time an old draft nears deletion seems innapropraite without further discussion from WP:AFC members. At this time it appears this request is more to expediate your own draft request which has been sitting for 1 month. I suggest just having patience with the system, your draft will be reviewed soon. Thanks, Terasail[✉️] 17:27, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Faster than Thunder: AFC drafts that are submitted for review do not get tagged for G13 and are not at risk of deletion. You still had 5 more months before you hit the 6 month mark, and even if it was at risk of G13 all you need to do is make a trivial change to the article and it'll be avoided for another 6 months. Please don't spam random people with messages asking them to review your draft. I've left some feedback on Draft:Enzo Enzo because it has some issues that need to be resolved before it could be accepted. 192.76.8.77 (talk) 23:06, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Request for mass message delivery: March 1, 2022

Would someone please deliver → WikiProject Tree of Life/Newsletter/018 ←

Here are the details

Thanks for your assistance! AryKun (talk) 12:21, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Doing... Terasail[✉️] 14:36, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes Sent: @AryKun The message has been sent, I have checked 5 random pages and they don't appear to have errors. Thanks, Terasail[✉️] 14:51, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much! AryKun (talk) 14:53, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request for mass message delivery: March 27, 2022

Would someone please deliver WikiProject Finance & Investment's first monthly newsletter?

Here are the details

Thanks for your assistance! A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 11:24, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@A. C. Santacruz I am wary to send to the category for the whole WikiProject since it makes it a bit of a pain to remove users if they don't wish to recieve a monthly newsletter (This is obviously different for one off WikiProject announcements). Perhaps using one of the MMS shells above, adding the users and then sending might be a better approach? I will think on this more and any other perspective is appreciated. Pings to other MMS users active here if they have any thoughts on this: User:TheDoctorWho, User:Reidgreg, User:xaosflux, User:Nnadigoodluck. Thanks, Terasail[✉️] 14:02, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm reviving an inactive WikiProject so my idea is to send this as a one-off with instructions on how to sign up for future ones, Terasail. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 14:08, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah I see that my usual case of needing to read 3 times before responding has appeared again. I may have just glanced over the page read the title, ect... and thought the plan was to use the cat for each release. My mistake this looks good to me. Thanks, Terasail[✉️] 14:11, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@A. C. Santacruz I will send this on the 1st. Thanks, Terasail[✉️] 14:12, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Message looks to be well formatted, all tags closed, free image, and links don't go anywhere unexpected (ie: not an April Fools' mailing). – Reidgreg (talk) 14:53, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I used the formatting from GOCE, Reidgreg :) I love their newsletter style! A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 14:56, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
One problem with that category, is that some of it is a mess - for example it contains pages like User:Irtapil/Interesting_Projects and User:The Random Editor/Userboxes, which are not good MMS delivery targets. Copy pasting to a shell, and curating the pages shouldn't be hard with a little text editing. — xaosflux Talk 14:37, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@A. C. Santacruz and Terasail: courtesy ping. Reidgreg (talk) 11:26, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I was just going to go through the cat and put them in the mailing list before I sent. Terasail[✉️] 11:30, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Doing... Terasail[✉️] 14:31, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes Sent: Checked 5 pages, appears to have sent correctly. It sent to 51 pages (Users in the category who are still active). Thanks, Terasail[✉️] 14:33, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Terasail! How do I remove users from the mailing list so only those wishing to receive the newsletter sign up? I tried to remove one person but it kind of broke the page. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 14:54, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It didn't break the page MMS content pages are just having a rough month.. Someone broke them somewhere and there is probably a phab ticket about it somewhere. You just need to WP:Purge the page to fix it. The remove button will do it or you can click "edit" manually find the user and remove them. Thanks, Terasail[✉️] 15:08, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think I managed to do it correctly now, thanks Terasail :) A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 15:27, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I just purged the page for you. I would suggest not completely removing the list as everyone who got the message would probably assume that they were signed up to it, but this is up to you. Thanks, Terasail[✉️] 15:32, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Terasail that makes sense. After seeing the number of page views just today I think I should just leave everyone in the list due to them assuming they were signed up. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 15:34, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request for mass message delivery: March 30, 2022

Would someone please deliver WikiProject Tree of Life/Newsletter/019

Here are the details

Thanks for your assistance! AryKun (talk) 05:43, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 On hold Terasail[✉️] 08:08, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes Sent: Checked 5 pages, appears to have sent correctly. Thanks, Terasail[✉️] 13:50, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request for mass message delivery: April 27, 2022

Would someone please deliver this mass notice to wikiprojects

Here are the details

Thanks for your assistance! Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 03:35, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Im not sure how good the idea of advertising a userscript across 1146 WikiProjects rather than a more targeted approach. @Headbomb Is there any specific reasoning behind the request, there are already 298 active users with the script and 456 with it overall, im not sure how much this would benefit people. As far as I know, there has not been consensus about promotion across all WikiProjects and this is not quite the same as mailing a list of people that have already signed up to a WikiProject. Terasail[✉️] 10:04, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This is a script that will be useful to every Wikiprojects. The reasoning behind the request is that it's a mature, well-tested script, with wide adoption and praises, and is one of the most powerful ways to detect bad sourcing in articles. It's been advertised on script newsletters and sourcing-specific noticeboards like WP:FRINGEN and WP:RSN, but that only reaches a limited number of eyeballs. Right now we have ~450 people using the script, but sourcing is something that affects all projects, and if there's a, let's say car-specific source that's garbage but widely used, well the people that would know about that are the WikiProject Cars people. And if the car people tell me 'hey, theses sources are bad', I can add them to the script, then everyone else benefits. Likewise for if there's a widely-used garbage source related to Indian railways.
So that's more or less the reasoning. If there was a monthly Wikiproject newsletter that was sent to all projects, I'd use that instead, but that doesn't exist. So the alternative is a one-off message, which I'd rather not spam manually through AWB. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 10:45, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Terasail: Any updates on this? I'd really rather not have to send these through AWB. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:16, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Headbomb  Doing... I have thought about this and it seems productive to publicise this tool, I haven't found any policies that go against doing this. The tool appears to be useful to all WikiProjects and may assist users in maintaining articles within their respecticve scope, in regard to correct referencing. Terasail[✉️] 15:41, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Massive thanks! Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:58, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes Sent @Headbomb Appears to have sent correctly to all pages. If there were any problems please let me know. Thanks, Terasail[✉️] 16:05, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Terasail: Great, thanks. Can you reset my sandbox to the previous content model? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:06, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Headbomb  Done I changed it since the list you had was unable to be detected by the tool. It should be good and back to normal now. Terasail[✉️] 16:11, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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