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Comment. Given the last few words of your recent post, is it possible (not necessarily likely, but possible) that one film (it doesn't matter which one) will be in 2022 and the other in a year like 2028?? Georgia guy (talk) 18:35, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:UFILM, we use the year the film is released, no matter how long into the future, if it has a release date. "Upcoming" is only used if there's no set release date yet. —El Millo (talk) 01:33, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Move the Disney film to "Pinocchio (2022 film)" and the Netflix film to "Pinocchio (upcoming film)". The only sourced statement in Pinocchio (2022 film) about it coming out next year in fact says On January 14, 2021, Netflix CEO Ted Sarandos revealed that the film's release could be moved to "2022 or later", whereas the Disney film is officially slated for release "Fall 2022", which is much more concrete. The Netflix film was reported to be delayed to 2022 in August, but all it's based on is a tweet by a reporter for a publication I've never heard of, who "didn't reveal the reason for the film potentially being pushed back". That 2021 has only 48 days left and we've seen no marketing obviously suggests the 2021 release is out of the window, but we have no word a 2022 release is officially set and it could very well come out in 2023, 2024, or 2025. If and only if it becomes clear that they are coming out in the same year should we contemplate what the disambiguators should be. If one uses "Disney" the other should use "Netflix", and if one "animated" the other "live-action". (Although the Disney one is said to be a "live-action retelling", it could very well use a lot of animation and our article defines it as "live-action-CGI animated", so we might want to wait for stills or a trailer to come out before deciding whether to disambiguate by medium). Nardog (talk) 14:45, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with Nardog. The article should also reflect to uncertainty of the statement, if the source says "2022 or later", the infobox and the lead section can't say it will be released in 2022. —El Millo (talk) 16:31, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Agree/Support Nardog's proposal per above. And IF the Netflix animated one happens to get a 2022 release date, then we can figure out whether the disambiguator should be "animated" vs. "live-action", or alternatively "Netflix" vs. "Disney" — but IF that happens. Paintspot Infez (talk) 20:01, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In contrast, if it the Netflix movie ends up with a 2023 or later release date, Nardog's proposal is permanent. (Just to be clear, this is a completion of Paintspot's vote on this RM.) Georgia guy (talk) 20:05, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Not possible, per the arguments laid out above, as the Netflix film isn't confirmed for 2022 and using proper nouns in disambiguations is advised against if there are other options. —El Millo (talk) 23:25, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This is only tangential, but I find that reading of WP:NCDAB leaning too close to the letter than to the spirit of the law. What it actually says is: "the generic class (avoiding proper nouns, as much as possible) that includes the topic, as in Mercury (element), Seal (emblem)". So it's only proscribing use of a proper noun as the overall class for disambiguation; it doesn't proscribe use of a proper noun as an additional qualifier to a generic class. Using "Disney" or "Netflix" in a parenthetical dab wouldn't run counter to the guideline as long as it ends in "film", which is the generic class to which the subjects belong. In this particular case, disambiguation by medium is indeed preferable because it's more generic, but if both films use substantial amounts of animation to such an extent that readers will plausibly be confused by disambiguation by medium, I won't rule out disambiguating by studio. But of course all this is irrelevant unless both come out in the same year. Nardog (talk) 02:59, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support but both should be disambiguate perhaps use BrookTheHumming's suggestions. The Disney one has 35,543 views compared with 30,132[[1]] for the Netflix one. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:17, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Any uninvolved editor can close this now because it's been open for well over a week. See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions. I'm surprised Usernamekiran relisted it even though a consensus had already emerged among four of us (and you, Georgia guy, who initiated this RM, don't seem to be opposed to it either given your "completion" of Paintspot above). Nardog (talk) 11:35, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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