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A fact from Michael Flynn appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 January 2010 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Michael T. Flynn is the top U.S. military intelligence officer in Afghanistan and has been pushing for closer cooperation with Afghans?

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Section size for Michael Flynn (36 sections)
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(Top)	21,884	21,884
Early life	6,937	6,937
Military career, 1981-2014	31	15,586
U.S. Army	4,943	15,555
Defense Intelligence Agency	5,455	5,455
Retirement from the military	5,157	5,157
Post-military career	25	34,618
Consulting firm	4,131	12,861
Foreign agent	8,730	8,730
Attendance at RT gala dinner	6,401	6,401
2016 U.S. presidential election	12,271	15,331
Advocacy of technology transfer to Saudi Arabia	3,060	3,060
National Security Advisor, 2017	241	36,764
Trump administration transition	7,103	21,269
Contacts with the Russian ambassador	14,166	14,166
Tenure, January 20 - February 13, 2017	2,428	8,727
Investigations during his tenure	6,299	6,299
Departure	6,527	6,527
Post-Trump administration fundraising and businesses	3,220	3,220
Investigations after leaving the Trump administration	9,995	51,624
Plea bargain, 2017	2,172	2,172
Sentencing delayed and postponed indefinitely, 2018-2020	24,903	24,903
Justice Department's motion to drop charges, Presidential pardon 2020	14,554	14,554
Political views	12,204	39,977
2020 election	5,501	5,501
Post-election, 2021	17,972	17,972
2022- present	4,300	4,300
2024 film Flynn	2,113	2,113
Personal life	822	822
Writings	3,738	3,738
Awards and decorations	8,072	8,072
Other awards and recognitions	2,859	2,859
See also	342	342
References	29	29
Further reading	599	599
External links	2,690	2,690
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woefully inadequate

In a sentencing memorandum released on December 4, 2018, the Mueller investigation stated Flynn "deserves credit for accepting responsibility in a timely fashion and substantially assisting the government" and should receive little or no jail time.[136]

There is far more to the content of the memorandum than that, and it obsoletes much of the other discussion on the page of what Flynn did, which looks like a whitewash at this point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jibal (talk • contribs)

One might consider the name of Flynn's current attorney to be important information as well; Sidney Powell

Party affiliation

What is the source for when his party affiliation changed? I think even though he was a registered Democrat, he stated in 2016 he didn't consider himself aligned with that party, and served under a Republican administration. It's misleading to just present him as a Democrat until 2022, and what is the reference for this? Andre🚐 22:06, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Jones and "the sound of the guns is freedom"

do others agree this content should be excluded?

Media Matters reported in January 2024 that days earlier Flynn had appeared in-studio with Alex Jones to say, "I told Alex a couple of years ago when we met that I had first seen him in 2008 and 2009. I said, 'That guy's absolutely right on the money.'" Jones asserted that government-aligned groups are "going to stage false flags — unless we expose them and stop them — to blame us and trigger this. And they're going to make moves that they believe will elicit a civil war. This isn't coming. It's here. They are going to try this." Flynn responded:
I don't raise my voice that much, but when I do, it means that we are moving to — as Alex just said — we're moving towards the sound of the guns here, folks. And the sound of the guns is freedom. We are going to move towards freedom.

soibangla (talk) 02:48, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's quite relevant, properly sourced, and I have restored it. It is very relevant to document that he has called for violent insurrection. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 03:11, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pardoned felon

Why is he listed as a pardoned felon? He was never convicted nor sentenced as the government had sought to drop the charges.

Category:Protesters in or near the January 6 United States Capitol attack

Could be added to this category based on Jan. 6 committee holds sixth hearing. "Stone and Flynn both attended the “Stop the Steal” rally on Jan. 6 but are not charged with a crime. They both appeared before the select committee and repeatedly pleaded the Fifth Amendment." Faolin42 (talk) 23:27, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't seem to be a defining characteristic of the subject and thus not meriting categorization.⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 23:46, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]