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*'''I don't expect to engage here much anymore at all unless necessary (such as article talk page space).''' So, given that this user page will not be getting much use (and its use has been on the decline because of certain unwanted watchers), you might want to go ahead and drop this user page. If you email me, I may or may not reply.
Regarding [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&oldid=993317359 this]? Looking at all of [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Medicine/Evidence]] and knowing I'd be subjected to similar, and how certain editors go all out to prove false narratives, I cannot deal with that. Like some editors (including [[User:Girth Summit|Girth Summit]]) know, I am dealing with [[COVID]] issues in the family. That is not something I just made up to get out of going through this "must take down Flyer" thing. It was happening before that, and it's gotten worse. I have a brother (not the one who edits here) in intensive care and a sister who was just put on a ventilator. I already lost an uncle to the virus. And editing here is supposed to help me take my mind off of stuff like that, not be subjected to as much stress and time-wasting that an ArbCorm case entails.
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*'''I don't care about your politics and activism as long as you keep them off Wikipedia and edit the way you are supposed to edit.''' Read and comprehend [[WP:Due weight]] and [[WP:Advocacy]]. I am not here to present one side of any debate or conflict. So, no, you will not see me only adding material that you agree with. I am not here to make you feel more validated in your views. I am here to present what the [[WP:Reliable sources]] state with WP:Due weight.


I have said goodbye to the editors here already. And I will say this before I leave: The argument from a few [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&oldid=993317359 at the request page] that ANI failed an editor because the admins are biased in my favor? Are we to honestly believe that I control all of these well-respected admins? They have their own minds and have disagreed with me before. They saw what they saw. So for this case to be accepted? It feels like this case would have been accepted regardless of the many requests to decline it. This case isn't about the private evidence -- material that I didn't write but am accused of writing. Material that was not passed on to me for scrutiny. None of the Arbs accepted the case on the basis of that "evidence", which speaks to just how immaterial it is. I acknowledge that I haven't always been the most civil. Editors on the case page noted that I work in areas where tempers flare. That's true. Editors accusing me of having been uncivil to them have also been uncivil to me at one point or other, often in the very discussions they've linked to. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&diff=prev&oldid=992942859 stated], "'''Arbcom is not a court, it's purpose is to stop ''current and sustained'' disruption of the project, not to punish users for things they may have done in the past.'''" But that is exactly what the request points to -- a free-for-all for anyone who has ever been in a heated dispute with me, with the added bonus of portraying my behavior as bullying, transphobic, or something else that it isn't. [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1016#Flyer22 Reborn accusing people of bias based on trans status + possible hounding|Consensus did not conclude that I was hounding or bullying anyone]]. Adhering to our policies and guidelines and expecting others to do the same is not bullying or being discriminatory. Criticisms are not automatically personal attacks. And commentary about what took place here at my own talk page can be seen [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Zenomonoz/Archive#Comments by other users 2|here]] with my "18:00, 9 October 2020 (UTC)" post (scroll on down).
*'''Harassment/hounding.''' For those expecting me to just [https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/all/2016/10/the-sexism-of-telling-women-to-smile-your-stories/503309/ grin and bear it] when facing [[WP:Harassment|harassment/hounding]], and who act like I'm just not [[WP:Assume good faith|assuming good faith]] enough in these cases, how about you go smile when someone harasses/hounds you. Yes, I'm going to respond to jabs if they are persistent and they are not just a troll matter to ignore. This is not necessarily [[WP:Bait|taking the bait]]. It can be about making it clear that I'm not going to tolerate it. And while bickering on a talk page is not ideal, I am human. We are human. Bickering will happen at times, and our [[WP:Administrators|admins]] are not above succumbing to this fate either. With as long as I've been at this site, I know that. For the admins who have never bickered, it may be that they aren't out there in the thick of it dealing with harassment/hounding or POV-pushing that undermines this site. Whatever the case, assuming good faith does not require that editors continue to assume good faith in the presence of obvious evidence to the contrary. Assuming good faith does not prohibit discussion and criticism. Assuming good faith does not mean playing dumb.


The claim that I went after anyone at [[WP:Med]] and made participation at WT:Med talk pages unbearable is false. For example, [https://sigma.toolforge.org/editorinteract.py?users=Flyer22+Frozen&users=SandyGeorgia&users=&startdate=&enddate=&ns=&server=enwiki Sandy and I got along just fine for years] until the Medicine ArbCom case and I continued to support Doc James -- [[James Heilman|our most influential and respected medical editor, who has been the face of WP:Med for years]]. These "just fine" interactions include stuff like [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=579673437#OCD_? this], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Coprophagia&oldid=969482194#Removed_for_sourcing this], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Coprophagia&oldid=969482194#Category_removals this], [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive979#Barbara (WVS)'s editing of medical and anatomy articles|this]], [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Leonardo DiCaprio/archive1|this]], [[Talk:Katherine Johnson/Archive 2#Elevation of this article to GA status|this]], and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine&diff=967811123&oldid=967808584 the view] that I am a fine editor for new medical editors to work with. I was never a problem at WP:Med. I have [https://sigma.toolforge.org/usersearch.py?name=Flyer22+Frozen&page=Wikipedia_talk%3AWikiProject_Medicine&server=enwiki&max= a long history there]. And the only supposed instance of me being problematic there is [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine/Archive 142#Rarediseases.org -- National_Organization for Rare Disorders (NORD)|the claim]] that I was driving away a newcomer. As documented there with evidence, I criticized a newcomer for the same exact thing another editor criticized others for when it comes to adding quality sources. Like me, Girth saw no merit to the incivility claims leveled against me in that discussion. At the moment, I can only recall one other heated discussion I was involved in at WP:Med. And that is [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine/Archive 133#Battered woman syndrome vs. battered person syndrome|this one]] about the [[Battered woman syndrome]] article. But it was just that -- a heated discussion. It was not me being a problem. And, indeed, because of my arguments there and [[Talk:Battered_woman_syndrome/Archive_2#RfC: Should this article and the Battered person syndrome article be merged?|at the article's talk page]], the article was moved to its proper name and appropriately expanded. Disagreements over [[MOS:MED]], such as [[Wikipedia talk:Manual_of_Style/Medicine-related_articles/Archive 14#Discussing before making significant changes|this]] one in a collapsed box which started off by me suggesting that we discuss significant changes before we make them (and then getting the reply I did), [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Medicine-related articles/Archive 15#Removing guidance about the lead, and adding a bit about terminology and technical language|this]] one where I questioned removing guidance and [[WP:Pinged|pinged]] previously involved editors who helped craft the current MOS:MED guideline (which is perfectly fine per [[WP:APPNOTE]]), and challenging what were the "golden years" of WP:Med, does not equate to me being disruptive.
*'''Socks.''' If I see a [[WP:Sockpuppet]], I am likely to alert a [[WP:CheckUser|CU]] to the matter. I might start a [[WP:SPI]]. If I ask you if you have edited as a different account, I have a good reason for asking. [[Wikipedia talk:Sock puppetry/Archive 15#Guidance about whether to simply ask them|It is allowed]]. It is not a violation of WP:Assume good faith. And since [[WP:LEGITSOCK]] is a thing, it is not always because I'm certain that you are violating our WP:Sockpuppet policy.


That's all I have say. This is not how I wanted to leave Wikipedia. But with my own declining health, it was only a matter of time anyway. Take care.
*'''My block log.''' Since many here will look at a person's [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3AFlyer22+Frozen block log] without taking the time to read and comprehend it, or are simply confused by it, I point to what [[User:Boing! said Zebedee|Boing! said Zebedee]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Domestic_violence&diff=710500183&oldid=710489375 stated] about mine: "Just for the record, I want to confirm that Flyer 22's block log is the result of a genuine 'My brother did it' episode. I communicated with Flyer by email at the time (as did other admins), and I was convinced that she was not guilty of any abuse herself - and the block that I made was indeed to help her secure her account, as I noted in the log. In fact, none of the blocks is a result of any misbehaviour by Flyer 22." So if you want to bring up my block log to sling mud my way (failing to read descriptions as simple as "uneccessary block, will comment at ANI"), be my guest, but it just makes you look ignorant.
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Revision as of 14:19, 10 December 2020

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Regarding this? Looking at all of Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Medicine/Evidence and knowing I'd be subjected to similar, and how certain editors go all out to prove false narratives, I cannot deal with that. Like some editors (including Girth Summit) know, I am dealing with COVID issues in the family. That is not something I just made up to get out of going through this "must take down Flyer" thing. It was happening before that, and it's gotten worse. I have a brother (not the one who edits here) in intensive care and a sister who was just put on a ventilator. I already lost an uncle to the virus. And editing here is supposed to help me take my mind off of stuff like that, not be subjected to as much stress and time-wasting that an ArbCorm case entails.

I have said goodbye to the editors here already. And I will say this before I leave: The argument from a few at the request page that ANI failed an editor because the admins are biased in my favor? Are we to honestly believe that I control all of these well-respected admins? They have their own minds and have disagreed with me before. They saw what they saw. So for this case to be accepted? It feels like this case would have been accepted regardless of the many requests to decline it. This case isn't about the private evidence -- material that I didn't write but am accused of writing. Material that was not passed on to me for scrutiny. None of the Arbs accepted the case on the basis of that "evidence", which speaks to just how immaterial it is. I acknowledge that I haven't always been the most civil. Editors on the case page noted that I work in areas where tempers flare. That's true. Editors accusing me of having been uncivil to them have also been uncivil to me at one point or other, often in the very discussions they've linked to. Beeblebrox stated, "Arbcom is not a court, it's purpose is to stop current and sustained disruption of the project, not to punish users for things they may have done in the past." But that is exactly what the request points to -- a free-for-all for anyone who has ever been in a heated dispute with me, with the added bonus of portraying my behavior as bullying, transphobic, or something else that it isn't. Consensus did not conclude that I was hounding or bullying anyone. Adhering to our policies and guidelines and expecting others to do the same is not bullying or being discriminatory. Criticisms are not automatically personal attacks. And commentary about what took place here at my own talk page can be seen here with my "18:00, 9 October 2020 (UTC)" post (scroll on down).

The claim that I went after anyone at WP:Med and made participation at WT:Med talk pages unbearable is false. For example, Sandy and I got along just fine for years until the Medicine ArbCom case and I continued to support Doc James -- our most influential and respected medical editor, who has been the face of WP:Med for years. These "just fine" interactions include stuff like this, this, this, this, this, this, and the view that I am a fine editor for new medical editors to work with. I was never a problem at WP:Med. I have a long history there. And the only supposed instance of me being problematic there is the claim that I was driving away a newcomer. As documented there with evidence, I criticized a newcomer for the same exact thing another editor criticized others for when it comes to adding quality sources. Like me, Girth saw no merit to the incivility claims leveled against me in that discussion. At the moment, I can only recall one other heated discussion I was involved in at WP:Med. And that is this one about the Battered woman syndrome article. But it was just that -- a heated discussion. It was not me being a problem. And, indeed, because of my arguments there and at the article's talk page, the article was moved to its proper name and appropriately expanded. Disagreements over MOS:MED, such as this one in a collapsed box which started off by me suggesting that we discuss significant changes before we make them (and then getting the reply I did), this one where I questioned removing guidance and pinged previously involved editors who helped craft the current MOS:MED guideline (which is perfectly fine per WP:APPNOTE), and challenging what were the "golden years" of WP:Med, does not equate to me being disruptive.

That's all I have say. This is not how I wanted to leave Wikipedia. But with my own declining health, it was only a matter of time anyway. Take care.