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: No, this is trivia and not necessary. [[User:Evaders99|Evaders99]] ([[User talk:Evaders99|talk]]) 00:50, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
: No, this is trivia and not necessary. [[User:Evaders99|Evaders99]] ([[User talk:Evaders99|talk]]) 00:50, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

==[[:Category:BTS (band)]] has been nominated for discussion==
The following categories have been nominated for possible renaming:
* [[:Category:BTS (band)]]
* [[:Category:BTS (band) albums‎]]
* [[:Category:BTS (band) EPs]]
* [[:Category:BTS (band) concert tours‎]]
* [[:Category:BTS (band) members‎]]
* [[:Category:BTS (band) songs‎]]
A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the [[Wikipedia:Categorization|categorization]] guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at '''[[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 March 11#Category:BTS (band)|the category's entry]]''' on the [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion|categories for discussion]] page. Thank you. [[User:Explicit|<b style="color:#4169E1;">Ə</b>]][[User talk:Explicit|<small><span style="color:#3CB371;">XPLICIT</span></small>]] 02:13, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 27 November 2019

You guys need to write that Kim Seokjin(he's worldwide handsome) is going to enlist in the military Stanchangbin (talk) 10:01, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —C.Fred (talk) 14:11, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 January 2020

Hi they weren't formed in 2013 - Kim Namjoon (Rm) Yoongi (Suga) joined at the same time closely followed by the others. They spend time as trainees before debuting in 2013. Please can this be edited to the correct information BangSpring20 (talk) 13:53, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make. Also, reliable sources should be provided for any claims made. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 14:07, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi in the introduction at the top of the page it shows that "bts were formed in 2013" this is incorrect, they were formed in 2010 - so am requesting this is changed to formed in 2010. They actually debuted in 2013, they have stated this in multiple interviews and vlives which i can provide when i get home if needed. Here is also two articles which give such information.

https://www.vulture.com/2018/10/bts-renews-contract-with-bighit-for-7-more-years.html

https://stylecaster.com/how-bts-members-discovered/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by BangSpring20 (talk • contribs) 15:46, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Hi in the introduction at the top of the page it shows that "bts were formed in 2013" this is incorrect, they were formed in 2010 - so am requesting this is changed to formed in 2010. They actually debuted in 2013, they have stated this in multiple interviews and vlives which i can provide when i get home if needed. Here is also two articles which give such information.

https://www.vulture.com/2018/10/bts-renews-contract-with-bighit-for-7-more-years.html

https://stylecaster.com/how-bts-members-discovered/ 

BangSpring20 (talk) 19:11, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 02:45, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Eggishorn: Hi. The formation year mentioned in the Entertainment Tonight article here is 2010 and 2011, ultimately finalized in 2012. Pinging frequent other Kpop editors Chiyako92, Alexanderlee, Snowflake91, Carlobunnie, Lirim.Z, Hahahey568, Kleool to particpate and reach a consensus. Thanks.Ashleyyoursmile (talk) 05:40, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why not just change the lead statement to say “began its formation in 2010” which is more correct? 2013 would only make sense if it says that’s when they debuted, not when they were formed. The group as we know it was only formed as early as 2012, as that’s when Jimin passed his audition. Alex (talk) 13:16, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction

Hey guys,

I asked for an edit to be made as there was some incorrect information on it but it still hasn’t been changed wonder if someone could look into it for me.

Bts weren’t formed in 2013 they were formed in 2010 they debuted in 2013.

Thanks BangSpring20 (talk) 15:57, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @BangSpring20: I've opened the request again. You might notice that the 'answered=' parameter was changed to 'yes' when someone responded to it. You responded again, but because the 'answered' parameter was still 'yes' it immediately looks like it has been responded to and possibly worked out. I've changed this to 'no', so perhaps someone who can help will be along soon. I do notice that the article history states they started their formation in 2010, with their final line-up set in 2012, though I don't know how this would affect things. Alex (talk) 16:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks sorry I’m still learning about Wikipedia lol...hopefully someone can look into it soon BangSpring20 (talk) 16:34, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No need to apologise, we're all beginners and learning at some point!:) Alex (talk) 16:59, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

bts has beat the beatles in many awards.

i haven't seen this said on the page but bts beat the beatles in sales. here is my evidence: https://mnews.joins.com/article/23447584 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hotpocketrolls (talk • contribs) 17:24, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

BTS

Do you think some information should be added about each individual member of BTS?LNeiswonger224 (talk) 03:45, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, this article is about the group. Information about each member is on their own article. Alex (talk) 04:09, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 7 February 2020

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) NNADIGOODLUCK (Talk|Contribs) 15:16, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]


BTS (band) → BTS (group) – Per WP:BANDDAB: Use "(group)" when the musical ensemble members do not perform by playing musical instruments, the members are mainly vocalists, and other people perform by playing musical instruments. BTS is a boy band which consists of 4 singers and 3 rappers; none of the members perform any musical instruments. They are more comparable to a girl group than a band (rock and pop). feminist (talk) 07:54, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support - There was a reasonable consensus back in 2008 to do this for Kpop girl groups. Talk:4L_(group)#Requested_move_29_November_2018. But when applied to Kpop boy bands, there was no concensus. Talk:BTS_(band)/Archive_2#Requested_move_8_December_2018. So again, I support applying WP:BANDDAB consistently here. Evaders99 (talk) 08:29, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Bts genre

I already make a talk but I don't see it sorry, I wanted to correc myself, the boys don't consider themselves as belonging to kpop and kpop isn't an genre so you should delete the kpop in the genre. Furthermore as regards to the grammy interview, korean newspapers are naming " Genre Bts" the new genre the boys talked about so we coud put it " " in the genre until further precision. 💜 Sophiebbbbbbbbbb (talk) 01:52, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

See my response on Talk:BTS_(band)#About_the_style_of_music_of_BTS, cheers. Abdotorg (talk) 17:07, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I saw it and hope you saw mine too Sophiebbbbbbbbbb (talk) 23:24, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed edit to 2020 section

@Carlobunnie: @Ashleyyoursmile: @Snowflake91: Pinging you all as some of the more frequent editors of the page. The current 2020 section has a lot of extraneous information that does not necessarily need to be on this page and can be relegated to the album-specific pages (e.g., details about the comeback trailers, extensive details on the album preorders, certifications for older singles/albums). I have made an attempt to rewrite that section to what I feel is most relevant and would like your thoughts before making the change.

2020: Map of the Soul: 7 and second stadium world tour

In January 2020, BTS released "Black Swan" along with a choreography art film performed by Slovenian-based MN Dance Company as the first single from their fourth Korean-language studio album, Map of the Soul: 7.[1][2] The song debuted at number 57 on the Billboard Hot 100 and number 46 on the UK Official Singles Chart.[3][4] Following the single's release, BTS performed alongside Lil Nas X, Billy Ray Cyrus, Diplo, and more in a special segment at the 62nd Annual Grammy Awards, making BTS the first Korean act to perform at the Grammy's.[5][6][7]

Map of the Soul: 7 was released in conjunction with its lead single "On" on February 21 to universal acclaim.[8] According to album distributor Dreamus, the stock pre-orders of the album reached a record-breaking 4.02 million, surpassing their previous record of 2.68 million with Map of the Soul: Persona.[9] In support of Map of the Soul series, BTS will embark on their fourth worldwide concert tour and second stadium tour, Map of the Soul Tour starting April 11 in Seoul, South Korea.[10]

References

  1. ^ Strauss, Matthew (January 17, 2020). "Listen to BTS' New Song "Black Swan"". Pitchfork. Retrieved January 18, 2020.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  2. ^ Zemler, Emily (January 17, 2020). "Watch BTS' Dance-Inspired Art Film For New Single 'Black Swan'". Rolling Stone. Retrieved January 18, 2020.
  3. ^ Kim, Ye-na (January 29, 2020). 방탄소년단 ‘Black Swan’, 전 세계 주요 차트 진입 ‘글로벌 인기 증명’ [BTS 'Black Swan' enters the world's major charts]. Exsport News (in Korean). Retrieved January 29, 2020.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  4. ^ Park, Seo Hyun (January 29, 2020). 방탄소년단 'Black Swan', 美빌보드 핫100 57위‥전 세계 주요 차트 돌풍(공식) [Bulletproof Boy Scouts' 'Black Swan' ranked # 57 on the Billboard Hot 100]. Herald POP (in Korean). Retrieved January 29, 2020.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  5. ^ "2020 GRAMMYs: Lil Nas X, BTS & More To Perform". GRAMMY.com. January 23, 2020. Retrieved January 23, 2020.
  6. ^ Kim, Hyo-jeong (January 24, 2020). "방탄소년단, 그래미 어워즈서 공연…한국 가수 최초" [BTS, Grammy Awards Performance First Korean singer]. Yonhap News Agency (in Korean). Retrieved January 24, 2020.
  7. ^ Bruner, Raisa (January 27, 2020). "BTS Joined Lil Nas X for Their First Grammys Performance". TIME. Retrieved January 27, 2020.
  8. ^ "Map of the Soul: 7 by BTS". Metacritic. Retrieved February 23, 2020.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  9. ^ "'컴백 D-3' 방탄소년단 새 역사 썼다…선주문 402만 돌파 '역대최다'[공식]". n.news.naver.com (in Korean). Retrieved 2020-02-18.
  10. ^ Herman, Tamar (January 21, 2020). "BTS Announce 'Map of the Soul' Tour Dates". Billboard. Retrieved January 22, 2020.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
Agree, and support your changes. Teasers/trailers etc. Serve far better purpose being on the album article rather than piling it all into this article as well. Noting that the album contains twenty songs, for example, certainly isn’t necessary in this article. Alex (talk) 19:52, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I support it as well. Also, if we need an additional source about the universal acclaim, Osen wrote an article about the positive reviews by Western medias. --Chiyako92 10:21, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
@Alexanderlee and Chiyako92: Thanks for the feedback! I have added the source from Osen and made the change to the article per our discussion Starlight dreams (talk) 23:02, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Heyy i also made a talk on this ! Btspop 👌 Sophiebbbbbbbbbb (talk) 16:47, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

About the style of music of BTS

Style of music : BTSpop, in a recent interview of BTS, the members of the group said that BTS music is not « Kpop » but « BTSpop », they don’t want to be in a precise style. For them, the music and their music is universal.90.34.203.83 (talk) 16:00, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: BTS is classified as K-pop, as it is in fact, Korean pop. I have never seen the members themselves call themselves anything like "BTSpop" and you definitely will not find a reliable source stating that there is such a genre. Abdotorg (talk) 17:06, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Further, genres are meant to be broad categories. Do you have examples of other groups that perform "BTSpop", as you describe it? —C.Fred (talk) 15:22, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well read the interview Michiru11 (talk) 19:38, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion

Good morning or evening I saw that there are ongoing discussions on BTS genre so I just want to add that it comes from this interview [www.grammy.com/grammys/news/bts-talk-new-album-map-soul-7-genre-bts] It would be great actually if those who run the page would take a look at it. This interview has been shared by the BTS Agency itself so we should take it in consideration by adding "BTS genre" for example. Michiru11 (talk) 11:48, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the source, but we are not adding a genre that simply does not exist. Like I said directly above this "BTS is classified as K-pop, as it is in fact, Korean pop". Abdotorg (talk) 15:17, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What an absurd thing this is. BTS are a musical group, not a genre of music. Alex (talk) 16:34, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 March 2020

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The result of the move request was: Moved as proposed. There's some good opposing argument, but even more so in support; overall there's clear consensus for move at this time. (non-admin closure) – Ammarpad (talk) 10:26, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

– This is the WP:PRIMARY TOPIC. Sawol (talk) 07:22, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support, overwhelming primary topic. It receives roughly 30 times the views of all the other topics put together, and has done so consistently for over three years. —Xezbeth (talk) 13:57, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nomination. --Chiyako92 15:33, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose BTS seems a fairly common abbreviation and the current pages seem appropriate. Coderzombie (talk) 15:41, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, the band looks to be the primary topic Thepenguin9 (talk) 17:07, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, it may be a common abbreviation but this article is clearly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Alex (talk) 17:11, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as proposed. The band is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. JohnThorne (talk) 19:47, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, mostly because I don't think (band) is an appropriate disambiguation. The WP:RECENTISM claims in the 2018 RM were far from unfounded, but I think by now there's enough evidence suggesting they aren't going anywhere any time soon. Nohomersryan (talk) 03:06, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The band clearly surpasses all the other topics in usage combined and none of the other topics can be argued to have substantially greater historical notability or educational value. Starlight dreams (talk) 03:29, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support the move. Csgir (talk) 07:31, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. The BTS Skytrain has been longer established and will continue to be used by millions of people in the foreseeable future. Airlines will continue flying to Bratislava Airport, and other topics are known as "BTS" as well. The boys will not be as popular in a few years' time. I agree that (band) is not appropriate disambiguation, but this is endemic to all boy bands. Girl groups don't seem to have this problem. feminist (talk) 03:18, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Makes sense to me. // sikander { talk } 🦖 03:29, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. The community needs to come to terms with the fact that, when people search "BTS", they are searching for this boy group more than any of the other topics combined. Their lasting cultural impact will always outweigh that of a transit system or an airport—which have a grand total of 11,000 page views combined compared to the group's 600,000 in the same 30-day period. Times have changed, search patterns have changed. Wikipedia needs to catch up. ƏXPLICIT 06:27, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Please consider being bolder in future.--Launchballer 15:09, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Launchballer, this move was previously proposed three years ago and failed to achieve consensus, so a new discussion was the only appropriate way to overturn the status quo. And besides, being bold in making a significant change to the topic structure is not always a good idea. – Uanfala (talk) 15:14, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support (my sentiments have already been echoed by everyone else above who also support). -- Carlobunnie (talk) 15:21, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in the merge. It can be reverted back to 'BTS (band)' once page views drop in later decades if this continues to become a topic of debate down the road. Until then, the many 'BTS' searches are dominantly for the band, rather than other articles containing the BTS keyword. MunRis • †alk 19:13, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Heolkpop (talk) 16:56, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Look how the band absolutely dwarfs the other uses of BTS via google trends. DanielleTH (Say hi!) 23:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support is the only thing that makes sense at this moment. Feminists argument doesn't gel with me; this group has outsold The Beatles. While their popularity may decline, their influence is undeniably massive, and will diminish far more slowly, the same way we still talk about the Backstreet Boys. And it's not like this change would be necessarily permanent. Metao (talk) 06:48, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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RM is The Main rapper

Rm is the main rapper of BTS Bananapooiiiip (talk) 23:19, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: see this previous discussion -- Starlight dreams (talk) 05:16, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2020

I want to add a bit more about BTS that other people and ARMY don't know so please let me edit a little bit Kpopbabie (talk) 20:55, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Not clear what changes you wish to be made, what is it you would like to add to the article? Please remember to provide reliable sources. Alex (talk) 21:06, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 March 2020

I would like to add the names of the members girlfriends BTSWaifu (talk) 00:42, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, this is trivia and not necessary. Evaders99 (talk) 00:50, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:BTS (band) has been nominated for discussion

The following categories have been nominated for possible renaming:

A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. ƏXPLICIT 02:13, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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