Talk:Musaylima

Relatively Minor Change

I removed the section which somehow had been introduced containing Telugu references and replaced it with a reference to al-Baladhuri which covered the same material.

The whole article could be improved. I will do that soem time when I have more time. DKleinecke (talk) 20:54, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Copied from

A lot of this seems to be copied directly from: http://www.swordofallah.com/html/bookchapter14page3.htm

Although the link is referenced, is this copyright violation? (unsigned)

Is it not parafrased good enough?

--Striver 21:55, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

No, it is not neutral enough. Str1977 ^(talk) 14:55, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

yes, it is. Scythian1 (talk) 17:01, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Removed Section with Lack of Source

Title says it all Fudk (talk) 23:26, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Appropriate source addedScythian1 (talk) 07:27, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Musaylima Bin Habib Is was not a magician

historians of Quraysh tribe made an accusation to ( Ansi and Musaylima ) of claiming Prophethood — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdullah ALkathiri (talk • contribs) 15:40, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Proclaiming prophethood/ Death

I deleted to following passages due to lack of credible sources, much less academic:

" He is the one who changed the Quran to Mushaf, Quran in the order of revelation is called Quran, as Musaylimah being a Magician he knew the after effects of changing the order of Quran and he arranged the Surahs from Fathiha making Muslims slaves and causing great magic on them by Mushaf. till Muslims read the Quran in Chronological Order they will be in that curse"

" Reference sheik Imran Hosein: Dajjal end Times, Gog and Magog, Jerusalem in Quran"

" Alternate: He killed all the Caliph and rewrote Hadith and blamed the Quran compilation on the Caliphs, Although it is the Sunnah to read the Quran in the Order of Revelation, All the people memorized the Quran from Muhammed, who memorized it from the Angel Gabriel. Angel Gabriel brought the Quran down in Chronological Order Chronological Order: The perfect Order in which Allah architecture the Quran."

" http://www.scribd.com/doc/201878485/Should-The-Quran-Be-Read-In-The-Order-Of-Revelation#scribd"

Further proof of false information in the previous statements is the contradictory claim that Musaylimah orchestrated the ordering of Quranic Surahs lengthwise instead of chronologically when he died during the Kilafah of Abu Bakr, the first Caliph, and the compilation wasn't started until the Kilafah of Uthman, the third Caliph. (~~Lithiumman~~)

POV Dispute

A little bit of digging around reveals that Musaylimah is regarded as a preacher of Hanifism by some people holding a significant role in Hanifism's alternative view on the authorship of Arabic Holy Scripture. The current wording of the article is heavily from a Muhammedan point of view. Bulgarios (talk) 12:17, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Bulgarios I did dig up. Show us any reliable source that "Hanifism" is related to Musylimah. Also it's called Islam not "Muhammadan"--SharabSalam (talk) 07:49, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

And what is a Hanfi Christian? Lmao.--SharabSalam (talk) 07:53, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

1) Try searching google for "Musaylima" and "Hanifism" together. You can't miss them.

2) I prefer the term Muhammedan or Islamist.

3) Hanifi-Christian is a typo. It should be Hanifa Christians is in the Banu Hanifa Christians.

I can see a couple of edits I made on Hanif related topics to lean them away from the current heavily biased Muhammedan/Islamist point of view (to which yuo have restored them) in some such articles have offended your fundamental religiosity for which I apologise. At the same time the heavy Muhammedan/Islamist POV will eventually have to be edited out of such articles. If not by a coward like me then by someone with more backbone. Unless of course Muhammedans come to dominate the world, in which case wikipedia will become the principle propaganda tool for that agenda. But hopefully that time is still very far away yet. Bulgarios (talk) 13:15, 8 June 2019 (UTC)