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Objective treatment of public information is not disruptive - deleting my content is. Take it up in the Talk page if you want it removed.
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[[User:MelbourneStar]], I reject your implication that my edits are disruptive. I have made legitimate, evidence-based and objective contributions which keep being deleted by *{{vandal|Bilby}}, who has overruled several discussions over a period of months on the page concerned, despite a clear majority of people on the [[Bill Shorten]] talk page who want an objectively-written section included to this effect, in the same format it has been presented for numerous others e.g. [[Harvey Weinstein]], [[Kevin Spacey]], fellow Australians [[Don Burke]], [[Geoffery Rush]], and fellow politicians [[Al Franken]], [[Donald Trump]], [[Bill Clinton]], [[Joe Biden]]. You don't get more high-profile than these people, and yet they all have a relevant section title, regardless of whether the case proceeded. It is well established that cases are by their nature very difficult to achieve conviction, so many incidents go unreported, or are unsuccessful through investigation or trail, and I'd encourage you to read more about it: <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault#Australia</ref>. It is for this reason that *{{vandal|Bilby}}'s dismissal on the relevance of including this content that is incredibly problematic and illustrates a disregard for victims of sexual assault, his fellow contributors, and Wikipedia's own guidelines. Given the discussions that have already taken place on the Talk page, and the numerous disruptive deletions by *{{vandal|Bilby}}, the onus is on him to provide a reason this content should be wholesale deleted, and gain consensus for it on the talk page. Wikipedia remains a place for information, not for hiding it - this is publicly accessible information, reported by legitimate news sources, was on the front page of national papers, and *{{vandal|Bilby}}'s only reasoning is that it's insignificant? Get a grip, the disruptive user is *{{vandal|Bilby}} and I'd suggest you don't waste much more of your time trying to cover up rape allegations with him [[WP:3RR|edit warring]], we've all got better things to be doing, myself included. You can't sweep public information under the rug in perpetuity, as the Talk page demonstrates, people will find its way on to this page and you'll just be wasting your time.
[[User:MelbourneStar]], I reject your implication that my edits are disruptive. I have made legitimate, evidence-based and objective contributions which keep being deleted by *{{vandal|Bilby}}, who has overruled several discussions over a period of months on the page concerned, despite a clear majority of people on the [[Bill Shorten]] talk page who want an objectively-written section included to this effect, in the same format it has been presented for numerous others e.g. [[Harvey Weinstein]], [[Kevin Spacey]], fellow Australians [[Don Burke]], [[Geoffery Rush]], and fellow politicians [[Al Franken]], [[Donald Trump]], [[Bill Clinton]], [[Joe Biden]]. You don't get more high-profile than these people, and yet they all have a relevant section title, regardless of whether the case proceeded. It is well established that cases are by their nature very difficult to achieve conviction, so many incidents go unreported, or are unsuccessful through investigation or trail, and I'd encourage you to read more about it: <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault#Australia</ref>. It is for this reason that *{{vandal|Bilby}}'s dismissal on the relevance of including this content that is incredibly problematic and illustrates a disregard for victims of sexual assault, his fellow contributors, and Wikipedia's own guidelines. Given the discussions that have already taken place on the Talk page, and the numerous disruptive deletions by *{{vandal|Bilby}}, the onus is on him to provide a reason this content should be wholesale deleted, and gain consensus for it on the talk page. Wikipedia remains a place for information, not for hiding it - this is publicly accessible information, reported by legitimate news sources, was on the front page of national papers, and *{{vandal|Bilby}}'s only reasoning is that it's insignificant? Get a grip, the disruptive user is *{{vandal|Bilby}} and I'd suggest you don't waste much more of your time trying to cover up rape allegations with him [[WP:3RR|edit warring]], we've all got better things to be doing, myself included. You can't sweep public information under the rug in perpetuity, as the Talk page demonstrates, people will find its way on to this page and you'll just be wasting your time.

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If you continue to add disputed content to the article [[Bill Shorten]], you will be reported at [[WP:ANEW]] and likely blocked. [[User:ToBeFree|~ ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 02:58, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

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Please stop your disruptive editing.

If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Bill Shorten, you may be blocked from editing. Stop edit warring. You want to add the content in? the onus is on you to discuss it on the talk page, and gain consensus for it. Otherwise you're wasting everyone's time, including yours. Regards, MelbourneStartalk 11:19, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User:MelbourneStar, I reject your implication that my edits are disruptive. I have made legitimate, evidence-based and objective contributions which keep being deleted by *Bilby (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), who has overruled several discussions over a period of months on the page concerned, despite a clear majority of people on the Bill Shorten talk page who want an objectively-written section included to this effect, in the same format it has been presented for numerous others e.g. Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, fellow Australians Don Burke, Geoffery Rush, and fellow politicians Al Franken, Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden. You don't get more high-profile than these people, and yet they all have a relevant section title, regardless of whether the case proceeded. It is well established that cases are by their nature very difficult to achieve conviction, so many incidents go unreported, or are unsuccessful through investigation or trail, and I'd encourage you to read more about it: [1]. It is for this reason that *Bilby (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)'s dismissal on the relevance of including this content that is incredibly problematic and illustrates a disregard for victims of sexual assault, his fellow contributors, and Wikipedia's own guidelines. Given the discussions that have already taken place on the Talk page, and the numerous disruptive deletions by *Bilby (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), the onus is on him to provide a reason this content should be wholesale deleted, and gain consensus for it on the talk page. Wikipedia remains a place for information, not for hiding it - this is publicly accessible information, reported by legitimate news sources, was on the front page of national papers, and *Bilby (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)'s only reasoning is that it's insignificant? Get a grip, the disruptive user is *Bilby (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and I'd suggest you don't waste much more of your time trying to cover up rape allegations with him edit warring, we've all got better things to be doing, myself included. You can't sweep public information under the rug in perpetuity, as the Talk page demonstrates, people will find its way on to this page and you'll just be wasting your time.

Final warning re. Bill Shorten

This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have shown interest in living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

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If you continue to add disputed content to the article Bill Shorten, you will be reported at WP:ANEW and likely blocked. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:58, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]