Talk:L.A. Noire/Archive 1

Archive 1

Archive 2

The next-gen console statements

I've added in a paragraph which references two IGN articles as well as a press release from Take Two. If anyone feels it necessary to make changes to (or remove) these notes then I think it should be discussed here first so we can reach a collective decision.

When R* Games were announced as being the publisher for the game, IGN posted an article where at the end they make it sound as if they asked for a release date. From their quote it sounds like they were not given one, but were told by R* that they should list it for next gen consoles, yet they weren't told any specific ones...

It is important to note that LA Noire was originally announced for the PS3 (which I also referenced with another IGN article). Now with the second quarter financial results press release from Take Two published recently, it appears from that that the game has gone back to being a PS3 exclusive - there are other games listed for multiple platforms while LA Noire is just listed for PS3.

I've tried to explain and word this as fluidly as possible in the article and reading it to myself it does make sense, however if you think you can reword it better then please go ahead.

--ChrisJP 01:08, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

"Take-Two title LA Noire is due out in fiscal 2008. The spokesperson suggested that both Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 releases are likely, stating, "LA Noire is being developed for next-generation systems." [1]

Seems that its multi-plat; but, I've not read the whole article totally, and you dont include the links your mentioning. Which part do you mean?

Can you post your links repudating the link I provide above? Thanks.

Wageslave (talk) 22:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I've read the article now, and it appears to be inaccurate.

On September 25, 2006, an article on IGN which referenced Rockstar Games being named as the game's publisher, mentioned that "publisher representatives have made it a point to list L.A. Noire for 'next-generation consoles' and not solely the PS3"[3]. This contradicted Team Bondi's original intentions in 2005, where it was announced the game would be developed "specifically for the PlayStation 3".[4]

On June 11, 2007, Take-Two Interactive, the sole corporation of Rockstar Games, re-confirmed exclusivity of this game to the PlayStation 3 with its release date set for only that console in 2008, in a press release regarding the company's second quarter financial results.[5]

The first para accuratley says ""publisher representatives have made it a point to list L.A. Noire for 'next-generation consoles' and not solely the PS3" and links to the story that says:

"Interestingly, publisher representatives have made it a point to list L.A. Noire for "next-generation consoles" and not solely the PS3 as it was originally announced. Whether that means that the game is also headed to the Xbox 360, Wii, or a combination thereof is still unknown"

The second para inaccuratley says (a non sequitor from the very same Q2 2007 press conference):

"the sole corporation of Rockstar Games, re-confirmed exclusivity of this game to the PlayStation 3 with its release date set for only that console in 2008"

This second paragraph is wrong.

There are two facts learned from the Q2 2007 Press Conference:

A) LA Noire will be released "fiscal 2008"

B) LA Noire "L.A. Noire for "next-generation consoles" and not solely the PS3 as it was originally announced. Whether that means that the game is also headed to the Xbox 360, Wii, or a combination thereof"

Therefore, LA Noire is not exclusive. The second paragraph needs to be removed, it seems to be a non-sequitor from the paragraph before. Further, the "futuregame info box" should reflect this reality.

Statements that this is "PS3 exclusive" should be resigned to a past-tense.

Wageslave (talk) 23:05, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me but can you refrain from editing the page for now, most likely this game will come out for the next-gen consoles but until their's comfirmation that it is please don't make any changes until then thank you.

[[User:zarth4|zarth4] (talk) 12:41, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Now that I think about it you can do anything you want with the article, Honestly I'll just wait until E3 or next year to see if I'll go multi-platform, it's a waste of my time now, their's alot of games coming out this year on the next gen consoles so I'll just wait until the developers or the publishers at Rockstar say anything sorry for the inconvience.

[[User:zarth4|zarth4] (talk) 12:41, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Moved from misplacement, belongs here

Honestly whats the likely hood of a Wii version being in development? I would remove that mention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bushido Brown (talk • contribs)

The article states: Although originally announced for the PlayStation 3, publisher representitives have made a point of listing it for "next generation consoles." RobJ1981 08:08, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

doesn't mean it's coming to the 360, wait until it is announced before putting that on here.

It's been proven that it's on 360 if you bothered to red the edits.

Do you have a link to this statement that specifies that its on the xbox 360? It only stated as nex gen consoels (which is weird since nex gen is current gens). Although its highly unlikely, it can be PS3/Wii. If you placed that in there just because of speculations, you shouldnt, thats not how it works. It most likely be on xbox 360, no doubt, but as long as its not announced for it you should place it.

The quote that mentions Xbox 360 is a direct quote from a gamesindustry.biz journalist who was speaking directly to the game's publisher (T2). Please see the citation. If he mentioned the Wii, it would be included. He did not. You could argue that the "Platforms" section should say "PS3, Xbox 360" and not "PS3, Next Gen Systems", putting it in the latter form is generous IMO. Wageslave (talk) 18:20, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I think it is too early to tell if this game is going to be a PS3 exclusive. It might have started out that way but Rockstar's statements about it seams to have left open room for a Xbox 360 version.

Take 2 pubishing and Rockstar might be sold to EA who loves to do multi-platform development.

I think you should leave the PS3 and "Next Gen" wording until there is more details from Rockstar. --8bitJake (talk) 23:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

There's been no confirmation of a 360 version. Last I remember, Wikipedia was NOT a place for speculation. If Velvet Assassin can be listed as 360 and PC only with little more than a hint, I believe it's safe to say this will stay exclusive. Besides, the developer is tied to three exclusive games for PS3. But even if there is a 360 version in the works, again.. WIKIPEDIA ISN'T FOR SPECULATION. You obviously don't get what Wikipedia's about. Let us know when it's confirmed for other systems. I'll edit this back, but feel free to edit it back in if it happens to be confirmed soon. 12.205.215.156 (talk) 23:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Restoration from series of malicious edits

A series of malicious edits lasted almost 7 days, sorry it took me so long to correct it. It has now been restored.

Wageslave (talk) 18:17, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Again, I've restored the article. The material included is well documented.

Wageslave (talk) 22:39, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Note, anyone who doubts those edits, please read;

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/rockstar-confirms-episodic-gta-content-360-only

This citation is posted in-line everywhere relevant.

Wageslave (talk) 22:41, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Their was no Ill intent involved

Their wasn't any malicious intent whatsoever, I'm going to say it, I lied that I wasn't going to make any changes to the article before and I apologize not to you Wageslave but the other people who wanted to find information about this game.

Zarth4 (talk) 18:21, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

One more thing I'm going to have to take down the url about me, because I want nothing to do anymore with information on this game until I hear more information from the developers during the upcoming e3 2008 or next year and I find it uncalled for to anyone to do something like that. Zarth4 (talk) 18:21, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Wait until game developers say something

I'm going to have to talk to the admidastrators about putting this article on full protection until further notice not because which console L.A. noire will end up on, but no one's reaching a neutral stance on the article and it's getting out of hand. Until their's more information on the status of this game. Zarth4 (talk) 7:26, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea. It seems that vandals refuse to acknowledge the material contained in citation 1.

I support the protection on the article in its present form.

Wageslave (talk) 00:35, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

That's not my point I could care less if it goes multi-platform or not, I read the gamebiz article, the fact of the matter is that people who want to read this might be confused because everyone can't come to a through agreement on editing this article. Zarth4 (talk) 8:49, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Since the game is going to be out in 2009 we are not going to know A LOT of details about it until Rockstar shows it off, I hope they show it off at E3 08 or PAX 08. --8bitJake (talk) 23:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I just know that it's funded by Sony. Team Bondi is held to a 3-game exclusivity contract for the PS3. A lot of this stuff is certain. What it boils down to is that Wikipedia is not a place for rumors. This is nothing but a rumor at the moment. 12.205.215.156 (talk) 23:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

An insider information is that game is nowhere near completion and it is doubtful that it will be released in 2009 or even 2010. It is more likely that game would be canceled rather that finished any time soon because it is still very far from being finished even though a game is being developed for full 5 years already. The game is developed exclusively for PS3 as of now because of many reasons and it is very unlikely that it will be released for other consoles. That said, I can provide no source to cite so take it as a rumor.--195.189.81.86 (talk) 21:43, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Last Week on the 15th of May

Someone messed up the picture and I had to fix the image, not the grammer, can someone lay off L.A.Noire for awhile until the publishers or the developers say something concrete. I know for a fact fanboys from the ps3 and 360 camp are altering the article. Zarth4 (talk) 5:00, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

For clarification

For clarification my last edit[2] had no edit summary so to summarize:

• A spokesperson for Rockstar says that it is coming out for Xbox360 and PS3.
• So far officially it has only been announced for PS3.
• Removed plagarism "word for word" copy of the GI.biz article here. I have rewritten it in an attempt to not directly take the text from the article.

Strongsauce (talk) 01:30, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

PS3

List PS3 as the current announced Platform, You Xbot lovers, its funny how Metal Gear R gets listed as X360 after e3 but even though T2 Games has announced it for ps3 u guys keep it out... WOW

Fanyboys! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.164.224.193 (talk) 07:44, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

1) I don't own an Xbox

2) The initial launch platform was annonuced as PS3, Take 2 then changed this to the ambiguous "Next Generation consoles" statement in a following financial statement. They have made no announcement regrading platforms ever since. So in the absence of a reliable reported statement from them stating "Sega Game Gear exclusive or iPhone only" we have to stick with the best that we have which is "we don't know because Take2/Rockstar haven't told anyone. - X201 (talk) 09:34, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

1. I own both. I don't relaly see why that matters in this conversation, but I'll throw some more useless shit into the discussion.

2. It has only been announced as PS3 in all official reports. That is what it says here, http://ir.take2games.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=248580 which is obviously old, but the only real official report that exists. Plus, just below in the New Information link that I provided, it seems Sony spent 20 million on it, handed it off to Rockstar and agreed to PS3 exclusivity. So lets just leave it as it is. Which is PS3. Which is the only confirmed platform. Not unconfirmed. Confirmed.--WhereAmI (talk) 08:42, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

1) Wasn't to "throw some more useless shit into the discussion" it was to answer the childish "You Xbot lovers," taunt in the original post by the IP user. It gets a bit irritating to try and keep articles reliable and factual and then get childish insults like that thrown at you.

2) The citation for "Next Generation" consoles on Team Bondi's site used to have a date stamp on it that was later than the Rockstar financial report. For some reason the date stamp has now been removed from that part of the website, although the statement "for Next Generation consoles" remains on that page. So I'm happy to go with the Rockstar info which is the only citable info we have, regardless of how old it is. - X201 (talk) 10:29, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

New information

Here's some new information that isn't really too credible to put in the article, but it's a fun read: http://kotaku.com/5456884/rumor-la-noires-development-more-of-a-mess-than-wed-imagined --WhereAmI (talk) 08:42, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

I always did think that there was something fishy about that 2006 video. - X201 (talk) 11:02, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

there are already better looking games out on the PS3, so it wasn't exactly aimed too highly. Markthemac (talk) 20:33, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Game Informer Cover Story

Issue isn't out yet, but Game Informer has revealed this is the cover story for their March 2010 issue, due out in a week or so. On their website article announcing the story, more than one Game Informer editor has commented that the game is for Xbox 360 and Playstation 3. I am guessing this will be confirmed in that actual article found in the March issue. 67.184.154.124 (talk) 03:41, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

It was 74.215.169.66 (talk) 02:35, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Title

Why's it "noire" and not "noir"?86.164.24.3 (talk) 21:37, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

It came from a typo, and they decided to stick with it. - X201 (talk) 09:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

illiterate game developers, what can u do about it? Markthemac (talk) 20:34, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

It's actually not a typo. Spinrad (talk) 10:53, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Why do you say that? "Noir" is masculine, "Noire" is feminine. "Film noir" is masculine. "LA" is either invariable (because it is English), in which case "noir" is correct, or "LA" is masculine plural (because it is Spanish for "the angels"), in which case one would use a masculine plural form, "noirs". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.80.168.33 (talk) 02:53, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Changes to the date

Hi I changed the date to 2011 fiscal according to this: http://www.rockstarbase.com/wp-content/gallery/l-a-noire/cce30062010_00000.jpg and this http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/08/28/l-a-noire-faces-yet-another-delay/

I'm not particularly experienced with the way of the wiki, so I didn't change the link, or the game's inclusion on that page sorry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.177.90 (talk) 18:43, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

At the end of the day it's obviously not being sold during q4 2010 because that means between aug and october, and so far bar the announcement of the game and one trailer nothing has come out, and they wouldn't just say "here's a game we worked on for over 5 years, enjoy" would they, they'd have to get a decent campaign going first wouldn't they? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.177.90 (talk) 18:47, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

I initially reverted your addition - force of habit given the number false/malicious edits that this article has received - Only spotted that you'd explained the edit on here after the revert. I've re-added Fiscal 2011 back in and added the ref(link). I'd been looking for a source because it obviously wasn't coming out this year. Good hunting. - X201 (talk) 19:15, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

L.A. noire equals Lenore?

When I first read the name, I immediately thought about Edgar Allen Poe's The Raven. Given the game and poem's similar dark appeal, I wonder if there's any connection between L.A. Noire and Lenore from the poem? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.255.172 (talk) 09:33, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

.....No. Just.....no. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.99.134 (talk) 16:05, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm trying to figure it if this is a joke. If not, then please read this article: Film noir. Zeldafanjtl (talk) 04:50, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Release date confirmed

The release date is may 17th as shown here http://www.computerandvideogames.com/284868/news/la-noire-release-date-confirmed-as-may-17-amazing-new-trailer-leaks/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.157.118 (talk) 14:43, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be noted that...

I think it should be noted that Rockstar Games has stated that both of the pre-order bonuses will be released as DLC eventually. If you do not believe me, you can check here:

http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/14011/presenting-preorder-exclusive-unlockable-bonus-content-when-you-.html

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.41.72.7 (talk) 23:26, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

That will going in the DLC section when they actually do release them. - X201 (talk) 08:44, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

First person/Third persin

I couldn't find about that anywhere and I thought about wikipedia but I was disappointed. Could you please help me getting rid of my disappointing and telling me if it's first or third person? thank you. --41.234.229.179 (talk) 22:00, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

...Third

Something to consider adding

http://scrawlfx.com/2011/03/l.a.-noire-honored-as-official-selection-of-tribeca-film-festival

This also apparently comfirms it on PC. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.19.47.122 (talk) 15:01, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

The PC bit is a ScrawlFx typo. All other sites just list PS3 and 360. as does the Take 2 press release. - X201 (talk) 15:53, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Okay then, but what about the fact that this is the first ever video game to be recognised at the Tribeca Film Festival?(http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/14861/la-noire-honored-as-first-videogame-to-make-official-selection-o.html) Surely that's worth adding right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.19.47.122 (talk) 17:38, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Got no problem with that. Add it. Just remember to add a reference - use the article about it that is on VG247.com as they're a reliable source. Scrawl isn't. - X201 (talk) 18:19, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Okay then thanks, but the article seems to be locked?92.19.32.174 (talk) 20:52, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't notice - It's due to the vandalism the article has been getting. Will add Tribeca info. - X201 (talk) 07:47, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Kindly add Gamespot rating of the game. They gave it 9[3] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.61.18.196 (talk) 17:52, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Depth Analysis's newly developed piece of technology?

Shouldn't it just be "Depth Analysis's newly developed technology for the film and video game industry"

What constitutes a "piece" of technology?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.19.52 (talk • contribs) 23:47, 20 April 2011

I think it should be changed slightly TrentMoore9 (talk) 12:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Icecrewpeople, 25 April 2011

7th word from the end of the first paragraph under marketing should be give, not gave, b/c grammar error.

Icecrewpeople (talk) 03:38, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

 Done Thanks - X201 (talk) 06:44, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Please correct

Change Post-War to Post-War as it directs to an album. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polmas (talk • contribs) 14:34, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

 Done Thanks! :) Chimpanzee^{+ Us | Ta | Co} 14:44, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

'Classical Jazz' soundtrack?

Classical is rarely used to describe a type of music, unless it is classical music. So I am assuming that this means 'classic' jazz, as classical jazz suggests some kind of hybrid between the two styles of music.

Even 'classic jazz' applied to the 40s could mean several different genres - e.g. Bebop and Big-band/swing jazz. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffcb25 (talk • contribs) 12:13, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Eddits, 9 May 2011

Please add the ACB Classification of MA15+. - http://www.classification.gov.au/www/cob/find.nsf/5c2433d416948a0bca25759f00820d25/80bf681cd6e065e3ca2578540057f304?OpenDocument

And the Australian release date May 20th. - http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/01/la-noire-hits-aussie-shelves-may-20/ Eddits (talk) 06:38, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

 Done - X201 (talk) 07:50, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Please fix

Under reception, the following sentence is poorly worded:

"some reviewers thought that the game had too many redundancies in the cases, and left too few control to the player..."

The fragment "too few control" ought to be replaced with "too little control".

Theevilgeek (talk) 01:25, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

 Done - X201 (talk) 07:46, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Archive 1

Archive 2

"Synopsis"

That’s not a synopsis. It’s a digest. Please cut it down to three or four paragraphs as recommended. I would do it myself, but I don’t know the story, which means I’m not qualified to choose the salient plot elements. I just know I have no interest in reading that massive digest when all I wanted was a synopsis. Strebe (talk) 20:21, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

You should have seen it before I shortened it. :-) I've been looking at it for months, I feel a bit like a rock climber, trying to work out the best route of ascent. - X201 (talk) 21:42, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

I feel for you and hope you can find a way forward. Strebe (talk) 23:56, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:L.A. Noire/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: GreatOrangePumpkin (talk · contribs) 16:40, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   "When searching an area for clues to the crime, in some cases, players can also find newspapers." - not a requirement, but I would write "In some cases, when searching an area for clues to the crime, players can also find newspapers."

    Done - X201 (talk) 10:28, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

   What is the name of Phelp's first wife

    Done - X201 (talk) 10:36, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

   "McNamara, said in an interview that " - remove redundant comma

    Done - X201 (talk) 10:38, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

   "Another year on, and in June 2007" - confusing; this may mean in 2007 generally, then June 2007. Why not simply "In June 2007"?

    Done - X201 (talk) 10:41, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

   ", which game a new release window of March 2011" - what does that mean?

    Done - X201 (talk) 10:42, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

   "A trailer for L.A. Noire, called "Serial Killer", that shows 90 seconds of gameplay footage as well as a confirming the games actual release date of 17 May" - incomplete sentence; remove "that". Confirmation, maybe? "the games" - "the game's"?

    Done - X201 (talk) 10:48, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

   "and proprietary tech blew" - tech = technology? There is no such word as "tech", except with context

    Done - X201 (talk) 10:53, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

   "Team Bondi recreated 1940s'" - should be without the apostrophe, imho

    Done - X201 (talk) 10:55, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

   Link "Steam and OnLive." in Technical section

    Done - X201 (talk) 10:57, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

   "The Pass also includes access to two post-launch downloadable content cases," - I would replace the comma with a semicolon or a colon

    Done - X201 (talk) 10:59, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

   "In addition to the purchasable DLC; a machine gun, "The Chicago Piano" and a bonus suit, "The Chicago Lightning", is available to players that sign up for the Rockstar Social Club." - replace semicolon with a comma, add comma after "The Chicago Piano".

    Done - X201 (talk) 13:01, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

   "On 28 September 2011, Rockstar Games announced a PC version of L.A. Noire, dubbed The Complete Edition, it " - start a new sentence or write "containing...", but a comma is incorrect.

    Done - X201 (talk) 13:02, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

   Link in the same section "patch"

    Done - X201 (talk) 13:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

   "depiction has been criticised on some points by some architectural and social historians" - can you name examples?

    Done Have removed that line. Checking the ref it seems to be a self published blog so not suitable, the other ref doesn't appear to have anything to do with the claim. - X201 (talk) 13:10, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall: A few issues, but all in all in good shape.

   Pass/Fail:

• Pass A great article! :)--GoP_T^C_N 14:28, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Where did the "Cut/Removed Desks" section come from?

Are these known desks that Rockstar was looking to implement and didn't? Or are these just desks at LAPD? If they were cut from the game we need to provide proof that they were slated for release by Rockstar and never made it. Padillah (talk) 14:14, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Cast

There's no section describing the voiceover artists and the actors who contributed to the motionscan tech? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Count of Tuscany (talk • contribs) 14:37, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

The main actors are mentioned in the development section. As regards a cast list, they are generally not wanted, as per guidelines. "Generally speaking, a list of the actors providing voices, likenesses or motion capture acting performances for video game characters is not appropriate." - X201 (talk) 16:08, 9 December 2012 (UTC)