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Possibly Gay

Silly semantic stuff here, but the previous "revealed that Aguilera was possibly gay" works a lot better, and I'm not sure why it was changed to "lesbian." as an adjective, gay is almost universally used in this context. lesbian is almost never used except as a noun. the word lesbian tends to be used a noun meaning a female of gay sexual orientation. no one says, "Do you think she is lesbian?" it's, "Do you think she is gay?" if the answer to that question is yes, it would be, "Yes, she is gay. She is a lesbian." GreenKid

I think "revealed that Aguilera is asked a lot of fool questions in interviews" or "revealed that Aguilera is a savvy marketeer" would be much more accurate.
In the interview, she said that she enjoys kissing women, and that looking at women arouses her more sexually than looking at men. "I love to see a girl with a good booty", she said.
Uh-huh. It's the kind of thing Abi Titmuss is coaxed into "purring" in every interview she does. According to this criterion, every woman ever interviewed by Loaded or FHM is screamingly "possibly gay".
chocolateboy 19:44, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

It seems that people added GLBT Artists and GLBT people categories to the article, although Christina's engagement to Jordan Bratman confirms the opposite. I'm removing these references. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 06:17, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

Since when does a heterosexual relationship confirm the absence of bisexual (note: GLBT includes a B for Bisexual) tendencies? It only confirms that she is not a lesbian. -- Ashmodai 07:22, 27 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Well, what confirms as bisexual? It already says in the article, about Xtina's bi-sexuality statements coming from a documented, dubious source. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 02:13, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
It seems slightly strange that there is so much controversey on this issue. If you ask any celebrity girl such as Christina you will probably get an answer relitively close to the one that she gave.--BeccaRose 03:02, 7 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Weight Issues

In early 2003, Aguilera aroused much comment when she gained a noticeable amount of weight. She was quoted as saying, "I couldn't care less about stupid diets. Eating is sensual and fun. I'm not going to let it be spoiled by calorie-counting." Whether she will be able to reconcile this attitude to her sexually-charged image remains to be seen.

Do you think this paragraph should be in this article? I don't see how someone's weight is signifigant enough to be mentioned in Wikipedia. --Lbmixpro 00:14, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)

It's all a question of whether people care, or cared. Her weight is not necessarily worth mentioning, as long as nobody cares about it. But Christina is a sex symbol, so people definitely do care about every last pound gained or lost. I distinctly remember the talk about her weight at that time. So it's worth mentioning. Everyking 12:14, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Hey, at least she isn't throwing up every meal and weighing 65 pounds. She obviously doesn't look overweight right now and I think that that is what matters. BeccaRose 02:57, 7 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
actually, right before she adopted cow-status, she used to be so skinny that people thought she was indeed anorexic or maybe bulimic. In the business she is in, it is almost an unwritten law to not be overweighted if your body build doesnt allow it. Back when aguilera once stated that she was exposing her "womanhood" by wearing skimpy outfits, when she released stripped, no one believed that it was a claim of feminism, she was using her body for commercial purposes, no one was THAT stupid to believe the excuse for an obvious publicity stunt, everyone knew that if all else fails, then go slutty, it works all the time (there is a history of that in music artists). Is the fact that she was once semi-overweighted important??, only if you believe in Aguilera is just a face... considering shes a pop singer, then she is more of a face than a singer(thats how the pop business is). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.28.199.89 (talkcontribs) 08:43, December 7, 2005 (UTC)

Retrieved links?

Just wondering what it means when the links have the word Retrieved and a date next to them. Anyone care to explain?

It's the date the cited information was seen on the website being used as a reference. Tuf-Kat 21:46, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)

Section POV template for Stripped

I added a SectNPOV template to the Stripped section of the article. The majority of the section seems to be weighted on the effects of the Dirrty video and says very little about the album's musical style, or other singles. I suggest either add detailed information about the the Fighter (a response to Kurtz), Beautiful (Video's appeal to urban sub-culture and it's message of not letting others' words hurt you), and Can't Hold Us Down (MTV's censorship and near-ban on the video for the use of a water hose). Or cut back on the "Dirrty details". --LBMixPro(Holla back!) 11:02, Apr 16, 2005 (UTC)

You seem to know a lot about it, can't you add that stuff? Everyking 12:30, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
It would take some time, that's why I asked anybody who has knowledge about Christina to write it, to save me some time. --LBMixPro(Holla back!) 08:02, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

Images

I figured since we have a perfectly good image of her DVD cover, we should include it somewhere, so I added it to the bottom, beside where it mentions the DVDs. I think it fits pretty well there. Everyking 05:46, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It's nice over there, but the reason why I put it on the top is to replace the other image, which may have been copyvio. I'd like to give the image that's currently on top about a week to get its copyright tag (someone already asked him to tag his images, since he uploaded quite a few others already). If nothing happens, then I'll probably assume copyvio on this one as well. --LBMixPro(Holla back!) 08:02, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

Questions/ Vocal Range

I find it odd that Christina should be listed/credited as a songwriter. She does not write songs, she simply adds to them. Alright, maybe this is hair-splitting but I think the "songwriter" bit needs to be removed.

And it is impossible for Christina to have hit a G6. It is higghly disputed that is is even possible for a human to hit those kinds of notes. And it is hotly disputed that it is even humanly impossible to have anything more than a 4 octave range. A piano doesn't even go higher than C7!

This is not an insult to Miss Aguileras but, there are misconceptions and inaccuracies in all female "diva' singers' voices and vocal abilities that need to be addressed. MsEames

YOU NEED TO LISTENT TO MARIAH CAREY'S "eMOTIONS AND THEN SAY A PERSON CANT GO HIGHER THAN C7. YOU CAND ONLY GO UP TO C7 IN FULLVOICE. BUT YOU CAN GO HIGHER IN FALSETTO. AND I HAVE A PIANO IN MY FOYER THAT GOES UP TO C8. MY FATHER IS A VOCAL PHYSICIAN! LISTEN TO ALMOST ANY OF MARIAH CAREY'S SONGS, OR MINNIE RIPERTON, OR CHRISTINA IN THE SONGS "SOAR," "CARWASH," OR "HAVE A MERRY LITTLE CHRISTMAS." THANKS... :)

Everyone has opinions and zero facts. The only fact is that it is highly disputed that a human (Mariah Carey included!) can have a 4 or 5 octave range. Mseames 23:25, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

Hi, you should check on adam lopez, you guys, a 6 octave range, guinness world record,former backsinger of Mariah Carey,
Whoever, somebody has been putting vocal profiles with good-voiced-singers, but he does not cite sources, whoever a dick has been removing these profiles, whitout saving them on the discussion page, what is very low! --— Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.240.157.225 (talkcontribs) 01:54, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
The vocal profiles are a controvercial issue all over Wikipedia. This article is being prepared to be a Featured Article . Which means it not only needs to be as detailed as possible, but needs to follow all of WP's policies and guidelines as close as they it be. As I stated earlier, the vocal profiles are possibly in violation of both the Citation and Original Research rules, because the vocal profiles may be brought up by someone actually listening/viewing the notes to come up with a conclusion. Adam Lopez's vocal range is different, because it has been documented by Guinness, a repuatble source. If there is a magazine, or reputable website which is valid by these guidelines (not GeoCities), then you can add it to the article. I know this may be upsetting to some of you, but it needs to be done, or this article will never reach Featured Article status. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 10:04, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
So what you're saying is to basically cite sources for the vocal profile. I agree. There has to be another written source out there which measures Christina's vocal abilities. But we need an external source. If we write based on what we hear, that would be Original Research, something which isn't supposed to be on WP. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 01:13, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
The very first sentence on the "songwriter" page states the following:
"A songwriter is someone who writes, in part or in full, the lyrics to songs, the musical composition to songs, or both."
I don't see a problem with it. --Aves 23:26, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Agree. Although Christina didn't completely write her songs, she has made major contributions to them, if she hasn't completely wrote the lyrics to the songs on Stripped. About the factual accuracy dispute with the vocal abilities, I don't think we should remove them. But try to correct what's written. Also Mariah Carey is reported to have a very large vocal range. I recommend you address your statements about female vocal ablities at its talk page as well. I'm now adding a {{sectfact}} template to the vocal range section. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 08:27, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC) (Updated 10:04, August 29, 2005 (UTC))
We do not know for a fact if Christina did indeed made "major" contributions to the songs. How did she make these "major" controbutions to the songs? A few words? A verse? The lyrics in their entirety? Christina is not a songwriter and does not deserve the songwriter title until she actually writes a song. 207.69.137.38

There should be a distinction between someone who writes a few lines or a few words for a song, rather than wholly contributing to the song. If someone writes the lyrics and the music to a song, and someone rewords or adds a few lines, that doesn't make a songwriter. If Emeril LaGasse cooks a new meal and I add the salt, that by no means means I am now a chef. I am a songwriter and the title of songwriter is thrown around much too freely. I will add this comment to the songwriter page, too. The wording of the page is too benign and generic. MsEames

And even then, would you call Britney a singer-songwriter? I guess you wouldn't. But she did write at least one song herself. I think for rightfully labelling someone a "songwriter" that person has to contribute to songs on a REGULAR basis. I think that's the keyword. Because I wouldn't call Britney a songwriter, just because she wrote one song (that I know of). [User: Dorisu | 14:38, 14 Dec 2005 (UTC+1)]
A C7, the C one octave above Soprano C is the top note in her version of The Christmas Song where she imitates a Mariah technique, to sing notes matching the keyboard. See Octave Scale and seventh octave for more information. Antares33712 13:42, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Christina Aguilera DOES NOT hit C8 whoever put this on the site is a liar. IF she did have a 5 octave range she would rivial maraih carey as a vocalist when that isn't the case. She doesn't hit C8 and thats wrong. Also the note Christina Aguilera hits in "Walk Away" is E3 not C3 according to her sheet music Walk Away Selection Details: pages: 9 form: Song scoring: Piano/Vocal/Guitar instruments: Guitar Piano Voice, range: E3-G5 http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtd.asp?ppn=mn0043933&bookmark=0&who=basic&Only=H

Keep Singing My Song is an E5 not a G5

Keep on Singin' My Song Selection Details: pages: 9 form: Song scoring: Piano/Vocal/Guitar instruments: Guitar Piano Voice, range: E3-E5 http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtd.asp?ppn=mn0043935&bookmark=2

The notes she can hit is the source by itself.It's hard to understand why it should be deleted. In this case,Christina's highest/lowest note(C#7/Eb3) was shown in sample clips I added.And if you know highest/lowest then you know vocal range.It's common senseI think we should remove this section only when there is no sample clip to prove what the note really is.
From what I seen in the edit summary of the last vocal range related revert, it seems that it was reverted in violation of the No original research rule. Since listening to the notes is a form of original research (finding out facts by one's self, instead of external sources), Wikipedia doesn't allow it. But I seen a link to the musical score of the song, but I'm not completely sure if that's a creditable source. Can someone with serious knowledge of WP clear this up? --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 08:22, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
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She does not write songs, she simply adds to them.
I think she co-wrote "Miss Independent" and "Beautiful", both of which are the kind of songs that "proper" songwriters write. I always assumed that meant vocals as well as lyrics, but perhaps I'm being fanciful. Correct the hell out of me if I'm wrong.
chocolateboy 22:55, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Protection request

The blanking seems to have stopped now, but rest assured. Reverting page or section blanking on talk pages when there's no personal attacks involved is vandalism and can be reverted without breaking the 3RR. - Mgm|(talk) 12:06, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

Comments from MsEames and Aves

To whoever removed my and Aves' comments: If you disagee with our comments or cannot add anything to the comments, fine, but do not erase them. Erasing the comments will not make the issues go away. I have added the comments back and will keep adding them back if they are erased again. Mseames 20:53, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

This talk page has been subject to consistant erase vandalism for the past few weeks. My statements have been removed as well. I have reported the person's IP address in Vandalism in progress and has requested this talk page be frozen for a while. I'll talk to the sysop in charge of locking pages to see if anything can be done about this one. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 01:17, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

Is this really worth putting in the article, should it be merged with the Guantanamo Bay one? --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 08:54, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

Chart and Record sales statistics

I'm disputing the accuracy of the record sales and chart standings statistics in the Discography section. Over the past year or so, I've been noticing the record sales statistics keep changing rapidly, although none of them are cited, to a point where I no longer believe anything written there. I'm almost ready to remove all chart and record sales statistics for the accuracy of this article, if we don't have a source for them. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) June 30, 2005 00:22 (UTC)

I agree, the information is constantly changing and who knows what's right, if any of it. Everyking 30 June 2005 01:16 (UTC)
Is it okay for me to remove the chart and sales references until I find some which I can acutually site? I feel we have some POV pushers Sneak Vandalizing the section. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) June 30, 2005 02:09 (UTC).
Hey are you an idiot or something go to RIAA.com web page and click search data then type christina's name and then it'll show you all of christina's certifications in the US dumbass. I'm the one who put that information there and it's all right okay. -- Edit history shows this entry belongs to User:207.200.116.71
What's your problem? Your insults don't belong in Wikipedia, and can be held against you. I'm just following Wikipedia's cite sources rule. If you want to add chart info, then give credit to where you found it. But thanks for the RIAA site suggestion, I'll look into it. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) July 4, 2005 02:01 (UTC)
Sorry for the insult i take it back but you need to get your information right because i took it as a personal insult that you would say that my information was wrong when it's right okay so did you look into the RIAA.com website yet if you did, did you find the information i found. --Edit history shows this entry belongs to User: 207.200.116.71 on 19:58, July 3, 2005
Actually, I was directing my comment about Sneaky vandalism to User:Laps87, who changed the statistics after posting biased statements against Xtina. Sorry if it looked like I directed them at you. But I have two suggestions for you. First, create a username for yourself. I think you are not the only person who's edited Wikipedia under your IP, signing up would at least identify who you are, and make sure people don't revert your signifigant edits. Second, create a link to the page you got the chart standings from, like this [http://www.source.url]. At least it will give some of the editors peace-of-mind on where these numbers are coming from. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) July 5, 2005 00:24 (UTC)

Since when are christina's debut album sales so high? The last time i checked them they were at 12 million not 16 million where did the other 4 million come from? Stripped has sold 10.5 Million worldwide didn't her record label put out that statement?

Her debut album was shipped 16 million worldwide and it has been sold around 12 million at the end of 2000.The sales do not be updated for a long time.I believe that it has been now sold 13 million . -- Unsigned 10:10, July 5, 2005 by User:61.90.119.231

Actually I heard that her self-titled album sold 22 million copies worldwide. -- Unsigned 19:54, July 8, 2005 by User:207.200.116.71

That would mean she is rivialing Britney's sales status and i dont think its sold that much. How it went from 12 million to 16 million to 22 million no i dont think thats true at all.

22 million is impossible.From her site,her debut has been sold around 16 million copies. -- Unsigned 16:13, July 9, 2005 by User:68.49.12.253

So what are you trying to say that Britney Spears is better. Britney may have better sales than Christina, but Christina has had more #1 singles and Grammy Awards than Britney so who cares if Britney has better sales and Christina can belt out a note like no other artist out. -- Unsigned 00:32, July 10, 2005 by User:61.90.121.171

Uh, I have a reference for both Christina Aguilera and Stripped. Does anyone care to view it? If so, go to the following source -> [1] 64.231.71.189 18:25, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Uh, what's your point?

Maybe if you'd actually go to the site? It says that Stripped has sold four million copies in the US and Christina Aguilera has sold eight million in the US. That's pretty accurate in the article, and since this is an official website, I'm sure it isn't incorrect. Thank God 64.231.71.189 came along, or this outrage would be ongoing. DrippingInk 00:55, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. I added the statistics from that site to the article and added the site to the list of references. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 06:26, July 11, 2005 (UTC)


Okay we know the US sales of her records were talking about her worldwide sales of her debut album.

Why are the chart positions being used based on the ARC Weekly Top 40? Shouldn't they be based on the Billboard Hot 100? That is the main U.S. singles chart, after all, and it seems more appropriate to use them. - Triggy, Jul. 12.

Because those are the only ones which are cited. If we can cite the Billboard 100 charts, then by all means, add it to the article. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 09:49, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
Yes. They should be given according to the Hot 100. That's standard. Everyking 05:29, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Cited --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 14:11, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

Having something is better then having nothing. I do remember hearing that her debut album sold roughly around what Avril Lavigne's Let Go sold. That would be fifteen million copies in the least. Perhaps it really is sixteen million? Where could we find a notable source? DrippingInk 14:14, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

Now we need the sources for the UK and Worldwide charts. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 14:11, July 20, 2005 (UTC)


RIAA Gold and Platinum Database Search official RIAA search page, showing certification. Output is abbreviated, G = certified gold (500,000 albums sold), M(N) is certified multi-platinum, where N = millions of albums sold. Note this is a US site, world wide sales not included, also not every albums is rated. But it is official RIAA for what it is worth. Wendell 23:44, 10 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

What's with this South African single release of "Infatuation"? I've heard nothing of it. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 02:14, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

I really think a source needs to be given for these worldwide album sales i don't believe she sold 5 million of her spanish album when she only sold 600,000 here. I also don't believe she sold 16 million on her debut album when the figures i heard they were only 12 million. can some one please provide a source for her worldwide album sales?

There are so many articles that have this problem; this, the Mariah Carey and Madonna articles are three of the ones that have it the worst. The sales of their albums are blown so out of proportion and most have only "sources" that are clearly fansites. Indeed, there's no way that Xtina's Spanish album even sold one million copies worldwide since it flopped in every other major music market outside the U.S. Same goes for the Christmas album, which only receieved certification for sales in the U.S. Triggy 02:30, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]


I also have to disagree on her Mi Reflejo album according to RIAA it hasn't receieved ANY awards. Not gold, platinum or multiplatinum. I tried and checked RIAA's searchable database and came up with nothing.


Don't judge that if you don't know anything Triggy. Her Spanish Album has been sold well in Latin America. The highest sales in Mexico for that year. If her Spanish flopped why the hell did she record for the new Spanish Album right now. And her Spanish Album sale surpassed 3 million since 2001 according to
BMG releases Christina's sales figures

On August 30, 2001, BMG

International released Christina's sales figures to date. She has now sold 23 million CDs and singles. This is a cumulative figure encompassing sales of: 'Christina Aguilera' (12 million), 'Mi Reflejo' (3 million), 'My Kind of Christmas' (3 million), and singles from all three albums (5 million).

Christina's actual sales figures exceed the numbers reported here since this cumulative figure does not include sales of soundtracks on which she has been featured, pop compilations, special releases such as the Sears singles, or collaborations such as 'Lady Marmalade,' 'Nobody Wants To Be Lonely,' and 'What's Going On.'

- Billboard Magazine


This was released before Stripped so how much do u guys think that she has sold now???

http://www.bignoisenow.com/christina/billboardcharts1a.html - Her old official site.

And how could Triggy said that there's no way that Xtina's Spanish album even sold one million copies worldwide
  • Christina's Latin album sold 600,000 not 3 million. that is something that needs to be put in her sales article! This now makes alot more sense. Genie In A Bottel sold 12 million, My Kind Of Christmas sold 3 million as did her spanish record. that makes 18 million not 30 million. Stripped does anyone have any sale figures from Stripped? her single sales are 5 million from Genie to My Kind Of Christmas
    • Many recent articles told her first album sold 16 million.(8 million US,8 million outside US which is possible. If we look at tons of singer, their albums sold a lot more worldwide(except US)than in the US.

Example - Mariah Carey

First album - 9 US, 9 outside US Emotions - 5 US, 9 outside US Music Box - 10 US , 20 outside US Daydream - 10 US, 15 outside US Butterfly - 5 US, 12 outside Us

...So i think it's impossible for Christina's first album to be sold like - 8 US, 4 outside US.--->>it doesn't make sense that her sale in US alone exceeds her sales outside US. I may say - 8 US, 8 outside US (16 million like many recent articles said now) is a lot more possible.

  • Mariah Carey's album sales were high because of they were released in the 90's also i don't think you can compare Mariah's album sales to christina's because mariah is alot more popular then she is and has more hit records then she does. I doubt Christina sold 16 million worldwide and i would really like to see a source that states she sold 16 million worldwide because i have never heard that figure EVER before. Also the U.S. is one of the biggest markets in the world i don't think Christina's album really took of or did as well as it did domestically as it did internationally. But if a source is given it would confirm an one who is skeptical.
This arguement is getting tired. There is no way of determing EXACT worldwide sales figures for any album or single, that much is certain. However, with accurate official sources and databanks, there are ways to get estimates. For instance, for the Britney Spears' discography article, I researched OFFICIAL websites to find her sales certifications in some of the biggest music markets of the world. These areas include:
United States: RIAA (http://www.riaa.com/) / BMG Music Club (http://www.mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=47877)
Europe: IFPI (http://www.ifpi.org/)
Canada: CRIA (http://www.cria.ca/)
Australia: ARIA (http://www.aria.com.au/index.htm)
Now, I realize that these four regions donnot make up the entire world, but what they do make up is a large chunk of the international music market.
Through use of these websites, Xtina's sales look something like this:
Christina Aguilera
RIAA (U.S.): 8x Platinum: 8.1 Million copies sold through SoundScan (Source: http://www.billboardradiomonitor.com/radiomonitor/search/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000800457) and 935,000 copies sold through the BMG Music Club. Combined, that brings the total sales of the album to 9.035 million copies sold in the United States.
IFPI (Europe): Platinum: 1 Million
CRIA (Canada): 6x Platinum: 600,000
ARIA (Australia): Platinum: 70,000
Total Sales from Selected Regions: 10.705 Million
As you can see from this display, the Christina Aguilera album sold extremely well in North America, but not so much outside of that country. This is why I highly doubt the record sold 16 million worldwide.
My Kind of Christmas
RIAA (U.S.): Platinum: 1 Million
IFPI (Europe): Uncertified
CRIA (Canada): Uncertified
ARIA (Australia): Uncertified
Total Sales from Selected Regions: 1 Million
This album sold virtually nothing outside of the U.S.
Mi Reflejo
RIAA (U.S.): 3x Platinum: 600,000 (Note: Mi Reflejo is a Spanish-language album, so the level of sales for certification is different than those of standard, English-language albums.)
IFPI (Europe): Uncertified
CRIA (Canada): Uncertified
ARIA (Australia): Uncertified
Total Sales from Selected Regions: 600,000
Again, nothing in these markets outside of the U.S.
Stripped
RIAA (U.S.): 4x Platinum: 4 Million
IFPI (Europe): 3x Platinum: 3 Million
CRIA (Canada): 2x Platinum: 200,000
ARIA (Australia): 4x Platinum: 280,000
Total Sales from Selected Regions: 7.48 Million
Again, I know that these four market DO NOT make up the entire music industry, but they do make up a large chunk. The areas that I'm missing official information from are Brasil, Japan and Mexico. I know for a fact that Xtina does not sell well in Japan, and pretty much the only American artist that has ever sold well in Asia is Mariah Carey.
Also, to compare Xtina's sales with Mariah's is unfair; firstly, as previously mentioned, most of Mariah's albums were released in the '90s, a decade where records sold way more copies than they do in now in the '00s, which is when the majority of Xtina's albums were releaed. Secondly, only with Stripped has Christina begun to sell extremely well outside of the U.S.; before that, only her self-titled debut even sold moderately well internationally. On the other hand, Mariah has been a huge seller internationally for years. Triggy 16:53, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]


MUMBAI: Multiple Grammy Award-winning artist, Christina Aguilera, will be making her debut appearance in Asia as a host for the 2005 MTV Asia Awards, which are to be held in Bangkok on 3 February, 2005.

Aguilera will join performers Maroon 5 and Namie Amuro, on stage to mesmerise the crowd with her star prowess. More artists and celebrities will be announced in the weeks leading up to the event.

Aguilera shot to fame with her self-titled album Genie in a Bottle in 1999. The album stayed on top of the charts for over five weeks and made sales of over 16 million copies. With a string of chart toppers under her belt, Aguilera earned numerous accolades including a Grammy award from Best New Artist.

The following year, Aguilera earned her second Grammy for her Spanish language album Mi Reflejo.

Declared as Favourite Female Artist at the 2004 MTV Asia Awards by young people across Asia, Aguilera 's appetite in trying new kinds of music has affirmed her as one of the most popular female singers of her time. Constantly pushing the envelope, she co-wrote and co-produced her latest album Stripped, which has already sold over 10 million albums worldwide.

The MTV Asia Awards is the only pan-regional event of its kind in Asia that brings together the largest gathering of international and local talent ever seen in the region. Filmed before a live audience of over 7000 music lovers, the event will be broadcast to over 180 million homes across the region. Viewers can cast their votes for their favourites from 15 November to 15 January 2005 through various ways including voting on the official website at www.mtvasiaawards.com and via short message service (SMS) for vote collation.

The official sponsors for the MTV Asia Award 2005 are Toyota Motor Corporation, HP and Samsung. Local sponsors include Sinyal Kuat Indosat in Indonesia, 5425 in Korea, DiGi Telecommunications Sdn Bhd in Malaysia, Addict Mobile in the Philippines, StarHub in Singapore and Heineken in Thailand. The awards are also supported by the Tourism Authority of Thailand.

http://www.indiantelevision.com/headlines/y2k4/dec/dec176.htm

Singer Christina Aguilera will be perform a concert in Johannesburg in November.

The concert will take place at the dome in Northgate on November 10.

Aguilera, a multiple Grammy award-winning artist, co-wrote and co-produced her latest album Stripped, which has sold over 12 million albums worldwide.

It includes the song "Beautiful", which earned her a Grammy for Best Pop Female Vocal.

Aguilera's previous greatest hits include "Genie in a Bottle", "Come on Over" and "What a girl wants".

Her first album in 1999 sold more than 16 million copies.

She recently completed a successful world tour in support of her album Stripped.

Aguilera is currently recording her next album, scheduled for release early next year.

http://www.suntimes.co.za/zones/sundaytimesNEW/topstories/topstories1127127818.aspx


As of March 2003
STRIPPED
United States: 4,000,000 - 4x Platinum (Platinum Req.: 1,000,000)
United Kingdom: 1,800,000 - 6x Platinum (Platinum Req.:300,000)
Germany: 500,000 (BMG says) - Double Platinum (Platinum Req.: 200,000)
Canada: 400,000 - 4x Platinum (Platinum Req.: 100,000)
Australia: 350,000 - 5x Platinum (Platinum Req.: 70,000)
Mexico: 300,000 - Double Platinum (Platinum Req.: 150,000)
Japan: 200,000 - Platinum (Platinum Req.: 200,000)
Ireland: 120,000 - 8x Platinum (Platinum Req.: 15,000)
Korea: 120,000 - 4x Platinum (Platinum Req.: 30,000)
France: 100,000 - Gold (Gold Req.: 100,000)
Philippines: 90,000 - Triple Platinum (Platinum Req.: 30,000)
The Netherlands: 80,000 - Platinum (Platinum Req.: 80,000)
Italy: 70,000 - Gold (Gold Req.: 50,000) 813
Sweden: 60,000 - Platinum (Platinum Req.: 60,000)
Brazil: 60,000 - Gold (Gold Req.: 50,000)
Spain: 50,000 - Gold (Gold Req.: 50,000)
Denmark: 50,000 - Platinum (Platinum Req.: 40,000)
Taiwan: 50,000 - Platinum (Platinum Req.: 30,000)
South Africa: 50,000 - Platinum (Platinum Req.: 50,000)
Norway: 40,000 - Platinum (Platinum Req.: 40,000)
Thailand: 40,000 Platinum (Platinum Req.: 40,000)
Argentina: 40,000 - Platinum (Platinum Req.: 40,000)
Switzerland: 40,000 - Platinum (Platinum Req.: 40,000)
Taiwan: 40,000 (BMG says) - Platinum (Platinum Req.: 30,000)
Russia: 40,000 (BMG says)
Singapore: 30,000 - Double Platinum (Platinum Req.: 15,000)
New Zealand: 30,000 - Double Platinum (Platinum Req.: 15,000)
Austria: 30,000 - Platinum (Platinum Req.: 30,000)
Belgium: 30,000 - Gold (Gold Req.: 25,000)
Czech Republic: 20,000 - Double Platinum (Platinum Req.: 10,000)
Hungary: 20,000 - Platinum (Platinum Req.: 20,000)
Poland: 15,000 (BMG says)
Hong Kong: 10,000 - Gold (Gold Req.: 10,000)
Chile: 10,000 - Gold (Gold Req.: 10,000)
Portugal: 10,000 - Silver (Silver Req.: 10,000)
Stripped Total Sales: 9,000,000+ (As of March 2003)
Stripped Total Sales Now: 10,000,000+

Maxim04

As of March 2003
CHRISTINA AGUILERA
United States: 9,000,000+
RIAA – 8x Platinum (Platinum Req.: 1,000,000)
BMG Music Club – 900,000+
Europe: 1,000,000+
Canada: 600,000 – 6x Platinum (Platinum Req.: 100,000)
Japan: 400,000 - Platinum (Platinum Req.: 400,000)
South Korea: 300,000 – 5x Platinum (Platinum Req.: 60,000)
Mexico: 150,000 - Platinum (Platinum Req.: 150,000)
South Africa: 150,000 - Triple Platinum (Platinum Req.: 50,000)
Taiwan: 90,000 - Triple Platinum (Platinum Req.: 30,000)
Australia: 70,000 - Platinum (Platinum Req.:70,000)
Philippines: 60,000 - Double Platinum (Platinum Req.: 30,000)
Malaysia: 35,000 - Gold (Gold Req.: 35,000)
New Zealand: 30,000 - Double Platinum (Platinum Req.: 15,000)
Indonesia: 25,000 - Gold (Gold Req.: 25,000)
Hong Kong: 20,000 - Platinum (Platinum Req.: 20,000)
Her Debut Total Sales: 12,000,000+ (As of March 2003)
Her Debut Total Sales Now: [approx.]13,000,000

Maxim04

In fact,her album sold well in Asia(I live in Asia, so I know whether her album sold well or not).Her Sales in Japan and South Korea is pretty high.

Removal of Vocal Profile section

In accordance with official Wikipedia policy (Wikipedia:No original research), the "Vocal Profile" section has been removed until someone can WP:CITE a credible external source for such information. Hall Monitor 17:33, 19 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's written on the to-do list. Please see your talk page Hall Monitor. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 12:16, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

Confused now . . . origin of Christina

Articles I cite on my edit history: (requested by LBMixPro)

AFTER she wins her grammy she goes "home" to sing the national anthem at just a regular seasonal MLB game for a last place team?

-http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/12045550

Donations of her time, appearances and money to Pittsburgh charities and shelters:

-http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/12174460

-http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05146/509614.stm

-http://www.post-gazette.com/localnews/20031222christinalocal4p4.asp

-http://www.chp.edu/pressroom/newsrelease19.php

She never requested a retraction and this appears every year:

-http://www.post-gazette.com/magazine/2001060150expat9.asp

Pittsburgh's CBS affilate KDKA "Broadcast" station does not do "access" shows:

-http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/aguilera_christina/videos.jhtml (I don't see "access")

Thank you for your time. :)

Being from Western Pennsylvania, we get a lot of Christina a lot of the time, it seems she is in Pittsburgh at least three or four times a year with her family on her mothers side as well as old High School friends (though North Allegheny wasn't all that kind to her overall). The first time I ever heard of her being claimed by the maritimes in Canada is when I read it here.

The Newfoundland information came from the "A Star is Made" book, so is much of the early years section. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 11:12, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

To be honest my first impression of that was that it was an oversight and bogus, it is very true that her mother and father met in that region, but nothing I have ever seen places her there or any of her current roots there. New York and Staten Island does have a legit claim to her as a "hometown girl" however I haven't seen much to indicate that she has any personal link to metro NYC other then it was the place of her birth and infant years.

There isn't any other connections to other cities, with the exception of moving to Wexford from some other city which bullied Christina. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 11:12, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

I realize that the fractured relationship between her mom and dad and the fact that her fathers work required him to move around alot. In families that experience that there is a "hometown" although they might be away from it "city-hopping" for years at a time. Any insight on this would be much appreciated. If there are current ties for Christina in other cities outside of Los Angeles and Pittsburgh, I'm very interested in learning more.

I left some links on my most recent edit for this entry to stories of her donations to Pittsburgh area police departments for upgrades, her visits and donations to Pittsburgh area abuse shelters and children shelters, her "homecoming" concerts to metro Pittsburgh, and her family's residing in the Pittsburgh area still. Although it is covered in her early years, I feel that some additional information is needed in order to correct any perception that Pittsburgh was just another temporary home on her way to stardom, one that makes little if any impact in her present life.

I think the article If you have some info which can be verified, by all means add it. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 11:12, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

Nothing could be more contrary to reality, although it will never take the place of Los Angeles to her, Pittsburgh in many ways is still "home" for her.

I feel that unless there is a tie to the Canadian maritimes in her current life or a strong one just a few years ago, the description of her "from there" is a false one. I am very open minded about that, just never heard of that tie before for her. Pittsburgh can claim many that had their parents meet here, Bob Hope proposed to his wife in Pittsburgh, Bob Hope is in no way "from Pittsburgh" though. Please inform me if there is a strong relationship between her and Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.169.186.41 (talkcontribs) 05:57, 3 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Song article infoboxes

Infoboxes for songs are to follow a specific color scheme. Infoboxes for singles are yellow, and album tracks are orange; light blue and the like are not to be used. For more information, see the Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs. This is being posted here because several (most?) of the articles for this artist's songs are improperly formatted. --FuriousFreddy 17:31, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Done. But there's two problems. One is already addressed at the Project talk page, I'm not clear if "Airplay Only" constitutes as a "commercial single", which is coded in Yellow. The other problem is I don't think some of these are actually accurate. I remember "Fighter" was released as a single, but it says airplay only. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 01:45, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
    • Billboard now treats Airplay only singles as singles. As a basic rule of thumb, if it had a full music video, give it a yellow box. Otherwise, give it an orange one. --FuriousFreddy 12:45, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Weird probably useless bit of trivia

I noticed, she was born ten days after John Lennon died. Does that count for anything? I'd've put it in the trivia section, and let it be deleted by whoever will now maybe ignore this (go ahead, I've got nothing set over this), but I guess here it is. Do with it whatever you like.

WAS 00:57, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.--For really useless trivia: I'm writing this five days before the 25th anniversary of Lennon's death (surprise, John!). Is that even more useless, or what?

P.P.S.--If you actually thought for anything more than ten seconds over the above P.S., you really need to sort out your life. Good luck!

Name Change

I was thinking that it is probably better to initially state her (in the introduction) as Christina Maria Bratman (professionally known by her maiden name of Christina Aguilera) etc. or something similar.

I'm not suggesting that the article be moved (it would have to stay as Aguilera since that's how she is professionally-known), but I think it's much more specific and better to state her proper name initially.

I'll add it now, but please reply to this before editing.

Thanks.

Leon.

Has she officially taken on the name, legally speaking? Links?

Deathrocker 22:35, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Outside of work, she is known as Christina Bratman, but as link shows, will remain as Christina Aguilera professionally.
Leon.
as for standards with other articles, after reading through WP:MOS they have no clear guidelines about birth names, but they suggest using a person's birthname if they are most well known by it. This seems to be the standard with other articles such as Jessica Simpson and Jennifer Aniston, who both changed their legal names but not their professional name.--Fallout boy 20:18, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. I also read on it, but it seems to me the best one (even to Wikipedia) is to state their current legal name, and then in brackets (as I did) to state the name they are famous by.
I still think this is better.

Cypriot stud 21:28, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This violates the principle of least surprise and is anyway pointless. Her legal name is of no interest at all and barely even warrants a mention in the article. Morwen - Talk 10:26, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]