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-== Conduct on Portal:Current Events ==
-'''Initiated by ''' [[User:Carter00000|Carter00000]] ([[User talk:Carter00000|talk]]) '''at''' 10:03, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-=== Involved parties ===
-<!-- Please change "userlinks" to "admin" if the party is an administrator -->
-*{{userlinks|Carter00000}}, ''filing party''
-*{{userlinks|Alsoriano97}}
-*{{admin|Black Kite}}
-*{{admin|Dennis Brown}}
-*{{admin|Deb}}
-*{{admin|Cryptic}}
-*{{admin|EdJohnston}}
-*{{userlinks|Elijahandskip}}
-*{{userlinks|GWA88}}
-*{{userlinks|Araesmojo}}
-*{{admin|AuguMaugu}}
-*{{admin|FrederalBacon}}
-;Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
-<!-- All parties must be notified that the request has been filed, immediately after it is posted, and confirmation posted here. -->
-*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Alsoriano97&diff=prev&oldid=1104343583 diff of notification Alsoriano97]
-*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Black_Kite&diff=prev&oldid=1104343614 diff of notification Black Kite]
-*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dennis_Brown&diff=prev&oldid=1104343634 diff of notification Dennis Brown]
-*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deb&diff=prev&oldid=1104343651 diff of notification Deb]
-*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Cryptic&diff=prev&oldid=1104343671 diff of notification Cryptic]
-*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:EdJohnston&diff=prev&oldid=1104343695 diff of notification EdJohnston]
-*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Elijahandskip&diff=prev&oldid=1104343713 diff of notification Elijahandskip]
-*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GWA88&diff=prev&oldid=1104343745 diff of notification GWA88]
-*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Araesmojo&diff=prev&oldid=1104343762 diff of notification Araesmojo]
-*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AuguMaugu&diff=prev&oldid=1104343773 diff of notification AuguMaugu]
-*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:FrederalBacon&diff=prev&oldid=1104343780 diff of notification FrederalBacon]
-;Confirmation that other steps in [[Wikipedia:dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] have been tried
-# [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1105#User:Alsoriano97_(Long_Term_Violations_of_Edit_Warring,_WP:CIVIL_&_Tedentious_Editing)]]
-# [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive441#User:Alsoriano97 reported by User:Araesmojo (Result: No action)]]
-# [[Portal_talk:Current_events/Archive_12#Multi-Revert_Issue_with_Alsoriano97]]
-# [[User_talk:Alsoriano97#Use the summary box before making an edit!]]
-# [[User_talk:Alsoriano97#Warning]]
-# [[User_talk:Alsoriano97#May 2021]]
-# [[User_talk:Alsoriano97#Your use of the word "Domestic"]]
-# [[User_talk:Alsoriano97#Revert of Current Events]]
-# [[User_talk:Alsoriano97#Your revert about Dwayne Haskins]]
-# [[User_talk:Alsoriano97#Matt Gaetz]]
-Numerous other attempts at resolution can be found at Alsoriano97's [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alsoriano97 Talk Page]] and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=&limit=500&target=Alsoriano97&namespace=100&tagfilter=&start=&end= Contribtutions to Portal Name Space]].
-=== Statement by Carter00000 ===
-I file this RFAR to request an examination of the conduct of an editor (Alsoriano97) and three administrators (Black Kite, Dennis Brown and Deb).
-Alsoriano97 has engaged in persistent edit warring (including WP:3RR) and tendentious editing, accompanied by gross incivility, over the past few years. Resolution on talk pages and ANI have [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#At wit's end|failed]] to resolve the issue. At ANI, Alsoriano97 expressed no remorse for his actions [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1102168127 x], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1102165132 x]], shifting the blame onto other editors [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1102172444 x], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1102183361 x]]. Consensus on Alsoriano97's [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Disruptive editing|disruptiveness]] and need for sanctions were reached at ANI [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101521598 x], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101743427 x], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101528349 x], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101780483 x]]. During and after ANI, Alsoriano97 has [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Patterns of behavior|continued]] his actions. Alsoriano97 has expressed contempt for conduct related proceedings [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1102164348 x], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101526792 x]].
-Alsoriano97 frequently edits at Portal:Current Events, removing content on Anglophone countries, with emphasis on USA. Removals are often news widely reported globally in RS's, challenged by many editors. Alsoriano97 [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Consensus|enforces]] of his opinions through disruptive reverting of items, frequently violating 3RR. When challenged, Alsoriano97 uses [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Collegiality|uncivil]] language and refuses to address the issue. Alsoriano97 is aware of WP:3RR, [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Patterns of behavior|previously]] being blocked for 24h [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=111694977 x]], and has cited 3RR to other editors. Alsoriano97 frequently [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Tendentious editing|expresses]] his view that Anglophone countries are overrepresented.
-I opened an ANI to resolve these issues, but felt that there were issues with the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Administrator conduct|conduct]] of some participating administrators.
-'''BlackKite''': Prior to ANI, BlackKite commented on a talkpage where I noted that Alsoriano97 had broken 3RR, taking no action, instead backing Alsoriano97 on the content issue [<nowiki/>[[User talk:Alsoriano97#Revert of Current Events|x]]]. BlackKite claimed his inaction was because the content was unnotable [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101562878 x]], despite content disputes not falling under WP:3RRNO, opining enforcement would be “rewarding” me [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101566938 x]]. He further made suggestions which bordered on [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Gaming the system|WP:GAMING]] [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101523288 x]] at ANI. BlackKite later opened a section to question my legitimacy [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101565040 x]], after being questioned on his actions, implying I was a sockpuppet/LTA, despite being [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Casting aspersions|aware]] of my account history. Throughout ANI, BlackKite refused to acknowledge [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Consensus|consensus]], [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Advocacy|minimizing and dismissing]] testimony of Alsoriano97’s actions [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101520411 x], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101768384 x], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101770407 x]], and being called out on such dismissals [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101780483 x], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101526792 x]]. Blackkite also removed a comment questioning his actions [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101604302 x]]. BlackKite improperly requested closure of ANI [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1103672316 x]] claiming no [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Consensus|consensus]] for further action. BlackKite was [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Patterns of behavior|previously]] admonished by ArbCom [<nowiki/>[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arbitration enforcement 2#Final decision|x]]].
-'''DennisBrown:''' DennisBrown commented on BlackKite’s [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Casting aspersions|allegations]] on my legitimacy, defending his actions [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101572750 x]]. When I requested his rationale, DennisBrown refused to answer, [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Personalising disputes|resorting]] to personal attacks [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101780810 x], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101961315 x],[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101966255 x]]. DennisBrown later assumed the role of administrator handling the ANI [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1102170155 x]], despite being warned that he was WP:INVOLVED [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1102155038 x]], given his [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Administrators and 'involvement'|comments]] at previous RAFR [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1102140945 x]] and ANI [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101567856 x]]. DennisBrown issued a “gag order” [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1102155730 x]] when challenged. DennisBrown focused primarily on civility issues [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1102170155 x]], and archived the ANI without resolution [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1105&diff=cur&oldid=1103767997 x]].
-'''Deb:''' Deb replied to a comment, incorrectly citing WP:3RRNO [<nowiki/>[[Special:Diff/1101537120|x]]]. Later, Deb characterized Alsoriano97’s issues as only civility issues [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101969174 x], [[Special:Diff/1102074238|x]]], [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Personalising disputes|resorting]] to ad-hominem attacks and pulling rank when challenged [<nowiki/>[[Special:Diff/1102146902|x]]].
-I request Arbcom examine if the ANI was compromised by the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Conduct unbecoming an administrator|prejudices]] of the above administrators, and for any relevant [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Conduct unbecoming an administrator|misconduct]].
-* @Alsoriano97,
-Noting that the scope of the ANI was not limited to WP:3RR & WP: CIVIL, but also your general pattern of edit warring and tendentious editing.
-Further noting that after ANI, you have continued to edit war on Portal:Current Events (albeit not violating WP3RR), ((A) [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2022_August_7&diff=prev&oldid=1103026084] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2022_August_7&diff=prev&oldid=1103101513], (B) [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2022_August_9&diff=prev&oldid=1103633633] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2022_August_9&diff=prev&oldid=1103922068]) and have continued your pattern of tendentious removal of US news ( [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2022_August_5&diff=prev&oldid=1102673792] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2022_August_10&diff=prev&oldid=1103892343] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2022_August_7&diff=prev&oldid=1103013099]), two ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2022_August_3&diff=prev&oldid=1102184666] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2022_August_3&diff=prev&oldid=1102212201]) of which was made hours after you posted at ANI. [[User:Carter00000|Carter00000]] ([[User talk:Carter00000|talk]]) 06:47, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
-=== Statement by Alsoriano97 ===
-How far do you want to go, Carter? I don't understand your intentions. In ANI we could all talk about the problems of my edits, where I committed myself not to be uncivil and not to break the 3RR rule again. You know that no action was taken in the end for whatever reason, so there must be a reason. I also don't understand why you decide to confront other users here. I don't think that's the way to solve this issue, frankly. [[User:Alsoriano97|_-_Alsor]] ([[User talk:Alsoriano97|talk]]) 22:21, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
-:Carter00000 has just appeared in combat again. It's sad to see that you haven't understood anything at all, nor how the problem-solving mechanisms work on Wikipedia. It's good to listen more to others.  [[User:Alsoriano97|_-_Alsor]] ([[User talk:Alsoriano97|talk]]) 13:57, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
-=== Statement by Black Kite ===
-This is the second time that, in their 487 edits (of which only 55 are to mainspace), Carter00000 has opened an ANI, been unhappy with the result, and then opened an ArbCom case.  I can refute all the accusations if necessary, but Carter00000 may want to remove the one that shows me removing "a comment questioning my actions", as one click would have shown them that it was made by a checkuser blocked sock.  I think it is unfortunate that Carter00000 didn't take the advice given in their last case filing [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=1095291049#Issues_with_the_Operation_of_ANI]. [[User_talk:Black Kite|Black Kite (talk)]] 10:29, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-* Filing an RFAR and then disappearing (so far, for <s>20</s> 36 hours) is not optimal either. [[User_talk:Black Kite|Black Kite (talk)]] 07:29, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
-:* I note that Carter00000 has finally returned, to post another aspersion on Alsoriano with no supporting diffs. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArbitration%2FRequests%2FCase&type=revision&diff=1104665095&oldid=1104608720] [[User_talk:Black Kite|Black Kite (talk)]] 10:23, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
-::* Ah, there are now diffs, including Alsoriano's removal of such important news as a US bill passing a vote, a US shooting (dozens of those a day), and a US politician catching Covid (really!). [[User_talk:Black Kite|Black Kite (talk)]] 12:41, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
-=== Statement by Dennis Brown ===
-*Absurd and obvious.  I trust the Arbs to handle without input from me, unless specifically requested by them.  [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<b>2&cent;</b>]] 12:05, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-::I stand by my comments in Carter's previous Arb case, a couple of weeks ago. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=1095291049#Issues_with_the_Operation_of_ANI] [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<b>2&cent;</b>]] 11:01, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
-=== Statement by Deb ===
-This is a pretty easy one. As to the diffs cited:
-#"incorrectly citing WP:3RRNO" - the diff shows that I cited it, which is true, as I wanted to bring it to the attention of Carter00000. I did not express any opinion as to whether it was appropriate in this case, I merely pointed it out as it might have been used as an argument counter to his/her own.
-#"Deb characterized Alsoriano97’s issues as only civility issues". One of these diffs does not relate to me. The other, even as paraphrased by Carter00000, seems to me a reasonable comment in the context.
-#"resorting to ad-hominem attacks and pulling rank when challenged" [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1102146902 Perhaps the strangest accusation of all]. Carter00000 has not specified the supposed ''ad hominem'' attack I am supposed to have made, and until s/he does so I am unable to respond. The statement "Administrators have a lot of experience in dealing with such cases" was relevant since the matter was being discussed at the Administrators' noticeboard, and was made in the "Remedies" section, referring to the fact that Carter00000 was suggesting remedies for a matter where s/he could not take any of the suggested actions in person but was badgering administrators to agree that these were the correct remedies, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=1102139438&oldid=1102138547 implying that s/he knew better than the admins s/he was addressing]. [[User:Deb|Deb]] ([[User talk:Deb|talk]]) 11:20, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-=== Statement by Cryptic ===
-I agree that we don't need arbitration yet (and probably won't ever).  Alsoriano97's incivility is understandable, largely minor, and can be explained away as being a non-native speaker in the cases where it wasn't minor.  In particular, the filer's accusations against the three admins are preposterous.
-The daily current events pages, though, really do need more admins watching them - A97 has breached 3RR on them many, ''many'' times.  [[quarry:query/66654|List including false positives here]] - as it says, not all of those are 3RR infringements, but the majority are.  And while "the observing admin agrees with the content change" isn't in [[WP:3RRNO]], I'm at least as guilty of looking the other way for that reason as anyone.  Behavioral change is definitely needed. —[[User:Cryptic|Cryptic]] 00:27, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
-=== Statement by EdJohnston ===
-I must be named here due to my 3RR closure at [[WP:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive441#User:Alsoriano97 reported by User:Araesmojo (Result: No action)]]. This closure happened in October 2021. At the time I did not perceive that Alsoriano97 had violated 3RR in any 24-hour period so the case was closed with no action. Back then I was not familiar with the work of any of the parties so did not incorporate any previous behavior into my thinking. [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 14:21, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-=== Statement by Elijahandskip ===
-This is getting old now. The AN/I ended in no result, which is actually for the best because I would have changed my suggested result to be just a warning to Alsoriano97. I originally suggested a 24-hour block due to the number of 3RR violations discovered, but after their reply to a questions, I would have changed it from that to just a warning. Honestly, I sort of want Carter00000 blocked for [[WP:HOUND|constantly trying to get Alsoriano97 blocked]]. AN/I, started by Carter00000 ended in no result, so they instantly came here instead of dropping the subject??? Like how is that not [[WP:HOUND]]. This probably won’t be accepted, so my suggested remedy is to put a '''6-month 1-way interaction block between Carter00000 and Alsoriano97 (Carter cannot do the interactions)'''.  That should allow the community to actually see if Alsoriano97 was telling the truth at AN/I and to help stop this stupid [[WP:HOUNDING]]. [[User:Elijahandskip|Elijahandskip]] ([[User talk:Elijahandskip|talk]]) 11:52, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-:{{ping|Deepfriedokra}} - Understood. Also, no one requested sanctions because this ArbCom case filing had not happened yet, so there was no clear [[WP:HOUNDING]] until now. [[User:Elijahandskip|Elijahandskip]] ([[User talk:Elijahandskip|talk]]) 18:01, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-::Question for anyone that knows: How many decline votes is needed to just be an automatic decline? At the top it says 4 to accept or a majority, and as of now, there is 6 decline votes, so I am slightly confused. [[User:Elijahandskip|Elijahandskip]] ([[User talk:Elijahandskip|talk]]) 22:45, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
-=== Statement by GWA88 ===
-=== Statement by Araesmojo ===
-Original opener of [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive441#User:Alsoriano97 reported by User:Araesmojo (Result: No action)]].  Obviously have issues with Alsoriano97 conduct.  Generally agree with most of Carter00000's grievances.  Have similar issue with Admin behavior, since it diverged relatively quickly into ad hominem attacks.  Based on repeated issues, don't believe this will get a satisfactory result.  Appears to have been swiftly declined.  Already stopped editing Current Events except for minor changes because of these reasons.  Effectively no longer contribute to that page. [[User:Araesmojo|Araesmojo]] ([[User talk:Araesmojo|talk]]) 19:54, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-=== Statement by AuguMaugu ===
-Sorry for being late to this, but the ANI ended and I think this should be discussed later, unless the user takes the any inappropriate actions seeing as they were ANI’d. <b style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:AuguMaugu|<b style="background-color:#07d;color:#faadff">&nbsp;Augu </b>]][[User Talk:AuguMaugu|<b style="background-color:#929;color:#75c3ff">&nbsp;Maugu </b>]]</b>♨ 16:54, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
-:*Also, I view most of CE from my work place (which doesn’t allow me to edit WP) and I don’t typically log in from my phone unless necessary. This was happenstance that I found the notification on my account today. <b style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:AuguMaugu|<b style="background-color:#07d;color:#faadff">&nbsp;Augu </b>]][[User Talk:AuguMaugu|<b style="background-color:#929;color:#75c3ff">&nbsp;Maugu </b>]]</b>♨ 16:57, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
-=== Statement by FrederalBacon ===
-My only comments related to this were in an ANI where I actually defended the possibility that Carter is not a sock. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101567178&diffmode=source I stated], and still believe, that because competence is required, a new editor who appears to understand our systems here shouldn't automatically be suspected as a sock (which is a key component of [[WP:BRANDNEW|Don't be quick to assume that someone is a sockpuppet]]). I also [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1101569884&diffmode=source inquired as to whether or not there was behavioral evidence] of socking, stating that the ANI would be a quick close if an SPI found Carter to be a sock (which is obviously true). I made no statement to fact as to whether or not I believed Carter was a sock, nor do I really have an opinion.[[User:FrederalBacon|FrederalBacon]] ([[User talk:FrederalBacon|talk]]) 19:52, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-=== Statement by WaltCip ===
-Swift decline, not ripe for arbitration. --'''[[User:WaltCip|🌈<span style="color: white; font-weight: bold; background: linear-gradient(red, orange, green, blue, indigo, violet)">WaltCip</span>]]'''-''<small>([[User talk:WaltCip|talk]])</small>'' 12:13, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-=== Statement by Deepfriedokra ===
-* [[Theatre of the Absurd]].[[User:Deepfriedokra|--  Deepfriedokra]] ([[User talk:Deepfriedokra|talk]]) 12:13, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-*:<s>:{{yo|Primefac}} Roger willco. [[User:Deepfriedokra|--  Deepfriedokra]] ([[User talk:Deepfriedokra|talk]]) 12:14, 14 August 2022 (UTC)</s>
-*::{{yo|Elijahandskip}} Any concerns you have with filer's conduct should go to ANI first. Last I saw, no one requested any sanctions there, when last I looked at the then open thread. [[User:Deepfriedokra|--  Deepfriedokra]] ([[User talk:Deepfriedokra|talk]]) 17:16, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-*:::{{yo|Elijahandskip }} I see the ANI archived w/o formal closure-- or summary. 'Twould be best to await the outcome here before returning to ANI. [[User:Deepfriedokra|--  Deepfriedokra]] ([[User talk:Deepfriedokra|talk]]) 18:07, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-*::::Please take this case. Please ban filer from Portal space. <del>Please give Alsoriano97 a 1RR restriction. </del>It won't mean peace in our time, but it should calm things a little. Best [[User:Deepfriedokra|--  Deepfriedokra]] ([[User talk:Deepfriedokra|talk]]) 07:47, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
-*:::::So if the concern about Alsoriano97 was edit warring, and they  committed at the ANI to stop, why are we here again? [[User:Deepfriedokra|--  Deepfriedokra]] ([[User talk:Deepfriedokra|talk]]) 22:25, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
-*::::::Noting that Carter0000 continues to not civilly discuss concerns with other users.. [[User:Deepfriedokra|--  Deepfriedokra]] ([[User talk:Deepfriedokra|talk]]) 10:11, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
-*:::::::Tendentious-- an intriguing word. [[WP:STICK|Perhaps an equine term]]? [[User:Deepfriedokra|--  Deepfriedokra]] ([[User talk:Deepfriedokra|talk]]) 12:59, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
-=== Statement by RoySmith ===
-{{ping|Primefac}} when you said, "I could potentially see a ban from posting here", did you mean arbcom could impose a ban, or that the community could impose a ban?  Does the community have the authority to ban somebody from filing an arbcom case?  -- [[User:RoySmith|RoySmith]] [[User Talk:RoySmith|(talk)]] 18:13, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-===Statement by Robert McClenon===
-The [[kangaroo]] wasn't there, so the [[boomerang]] is returning.  The idea of Primefac and Barkeep49 is a good idea for exactly what the [[WP:BOOMERANG|boomerang]] should do.  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 01:20, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
-====Additional Comment on Current Events====
-It has been said that there may be a problem at [[Portal:Current Events]].  There may be a problem, but there hasn't been a problem that spent a lot of time and words at [[WP:ANI]], and a conduct issue doesn't require arbitration unless [[WP:ANI]] has failed to handle it.  Not having discussed at [[WP:ANI]] doesn't count as a failure.  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 05:53, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
-=== Statement by MarioJump83 ===
-As someone who has been involved in this area, I have seen some increase of disruptive editing, insertion of non-significant items and occasional vandalism as well in recent years. That should be a "red flag" for an eventual ARBCOM case just like what happened at [[WP:ARBDEL]]. However the problem isn't really that serious yet and could be handled quite easily by the community. [[User:MarioJump83|MarioJump83]] ([[User talk:MarioJump83|talk]]) 22:58, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
-=== Statement by {Non-party} ===
-Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should address why or why not the Committee should accept the case request or provide additional information.
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-=== Conduct on Portal:Current Events: Clerk notes ===
-:''This area is used for notes by the clerks (including clerk recusals).''
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-=== Conduct on Portal:Current Events: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/7/0> ===
-{{anchor|1=Issues with the Operation of ANI: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter}}<small>Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse)</small>
-*'''Decline''' as premature. There is a lot to parse here, but in my initial two reads I am seeing nothing more than normal editing disputes, and potentially a large amount of misinterpretation or misunderstanding about comments left for the filer. I think L235's comment from [[Special:PermaLink/1095291049#Issues_with_the_Operation_of_ANI:_Arbitrators'_opinion_on_hearing_this_matter_<0/7/0>|just under two months ago]] at this very board summarises my opinions on the matter, so I will save some server kittens by not restating the entire argument. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 11:28, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-*:As an additional thought, my statement from the previous request (linked above) still stands: I do not see us blocking Carter00000 simply because of this filing (though I could potentially see a ban from posting here). ANI appears to have had multiple opportunities to make that motion and has yet to do so, meaning we have not reached the point of ArbCom-level sanctions. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 11:34, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-*::{{u|RoySmith}}, I meant the former, but something along the lines of what Barkeep49 proposed below could also work. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 18:29, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' per Primefac. Further, I would be in favor of a motion to require Carter to submit any ARC to the Committtee via email and have 2 arbs agree it's an appropriate request before it's posted. This should still give them a place for recourse, the bar to it being posted is deliberately low - only 2 arbs - so the community would not lose its right to weigh in but also wouldn't have its time wasted on requests that go nowhere. Importantly the 2 arbs wouldn't have to support any action or acceptance, only that the request itself is appropriate. [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 14:26, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-*:{{re|BDD}} I take the opposite tact - only ArbCom should cut off access to the ArbCom process. I did suggest some limiting might be appropriate in this case but I do not think he should be cut-off. However, as {{u|L235}} notes a block for disruptive editing would be another appropriate way of responding should there be future spurious requests from this editor. That could be done either as an individual admin action as appropriate under policy or as a community action. [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 20:49, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' While I'm not exactly thrilled about Alsoriano97, I think his edits are mostly just harmless expressions of frustration, which we Wikipedians are no strangers to. I don't think ArbCom has any role to play here. If we did accept, I would probably seek to boomerang Carter. For someone with less than 500 edits, Carter has managed to be at the center of a lot of drama. I think Carter needs to pull back and just focus on writing some content. [[User:CaptainEek|<span style="color:#6a1f7f">'''CaptainEek'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:CaptainEek|<span style="font-size:82%"><span style="color:#a479e5">''Edits Ho Cap'n!''</span></span>]]</sup>[[Special:Contributions/CaptainEek|⚓]] 18:48, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' It looks like there are problems with editing at the Portal:Current Events, but this request for a case is premature. - [[User talk:Donald Albury|Donald Albury]] 20:12, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
-*I haven't read enough to cast a formal vote but I am deeply disappointed that we are here again. I made an effort to assume good faith last time and I don't think my trust was rewarded. I don't think a formal restriction as suggested by [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] will be necessary{{snd}}seems like a bad idea to spend the time to create a new restriction like this unless we also create a mechanism for frivolous/premature filers to be automatically subject to this restriction going forward, which might be a direction to go in. If we don't do that, I hope that this will suffice: I assure the filer that they will be indefinitely blocked for disruptive editing should they again file a case request that is declined as premature. '''[[User:L235|KevinL]]''' (<small>aka</small> [[User:L235|L235]] '''·''' [[User talk:L235#top|t]] '''·''' [[Special:Contribs/L235|c]]) 02:20, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' as premature. Carter, last time I gave you a sporting metaphor; this time it's an obscure word and concept, [[barratry (common law)|barratry]]. Each premature filing for a case erodes your credibility just a little more. [[User:Cabayi|Cabayi]] ([[User talk:Cabayi|talk]]) 09:18, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' per others, especially Primefac. Any restriction on the filer should come from the community; I would probably oppose such a restriction coming from ArbCom, since I don't think we should do that at all. And I would suggest that even a community restriction should come with overwhelming consensus, as cutting someone off from the ArbCom process is an extreme solution. --[[User:BDD|BDD]] ([[User talk:BDD|talk]]) 20:38, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
-*'''Decline''' '''[[User talk:Maxim|<span style="font-family:Arial"><span style="color:#FF7133">Maxim</span><sub><small style="color:blue;">(talk)</small></sub></span>]]'''  12:40, 17 August 2022 (UTC)