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== Systematic disruptive editing, provocations of edit warring in Wikipedia by user Лобачев Владимир ==
'''Initiated by ''' -- [[User:Pofka|<span style="color:#fdb913;"><strong>Po</strong></span><span style="color:#006a44;"><strong>fk</strong></span><span style="color:#c1272d;"><strong>a</strong></span>]] ([[User talk:Pofka|talk]]) '''at''' 13:16, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

=== Involved parties ===
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*{{userlinks|Pofka}}, ''filing party''
*{{userlinks|Лобачев Владимир}}
*{{userlinks|Rgvis}}

;Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%D0%9B%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B2_%D0%92%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80&diff=1030686006&oldid=1030685870 diff of notification Лобачев Владимир]
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rgvis&diff=1030686077&oldid=1030084815 diff of notification Rgvis] (he encountered him in Romanian-Moldovan topics)

;Confirmation that other steps in [[Wikipedia:dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] have been tried
* [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27 noticeboard/3RRArchive436#User:Лобачев_Владимир reported by User:Pofka (Result:_)]] (latest report was left without any decision or sanctions, despite his massive, systematic violation of rules: June 2021)
* [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27 noticeboard/3RRArchive432#User:Лобачев_Владимир reported by User:Rgvis (Result:_Two_editors_warned)]] (warned for disruptive editing: 26 April 2021)
* [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive332#Nationalistic_vandalism, pushing of the Belarusian propaganda to the article of Pahonia]] (he performed edit warring at article [[Pahonia]] and was reported for that; no sanctions: April 2021)

=== Statement by Pofka ===
User [[User:Лобачев Владимир|Лобачев Владимир]] was already warned not to perform edit warring by admin El C recently ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pahonia&diff=1019404967&oldid=1019337393 El C warning]). Also, this user was already recently reported to the AN three times (see above), but did not received any serious sanctions and continues his disruptive editing, pushing of his POV, propaganda and provokes new cases of edit warring.

His hatred for [[Lithuania]] is perfectly illustrated by such chauvinistic statements like this one: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Coat_of_arms_of_Lithuania&diff=1017540938&oldid=1014917310 EDIT] (an example of Russian supremacy over previously annexed countries). All these anti-Lithuanian edits-reverts were made by him in order to humiliate the [[Republic of Lithuania]] and to push [[WP:OR]] that Lithuania is "not" Lithuania (but the [[Grand Duchy of Lithuania]] was created by the [[Lithuanians]]: [https://www.britannica.com/place/Lithuania/History#ref37336 Britannica]). This attack is because of the fact that Lithuania previously controlled part of [[Russia]] (e.g. [[Principality of Smolensk]]).

He also recently attacked Moldovan-Romanian topics in order to push his propaganda there as well (such articles clearly are attacked by him due to: [[Transnistria War]], [[Transnistria]] as both of these topics are part of the [[propaganda in the Russian Federation|Russian propaganda]]).

Some more interesting findings from his talk page: 1) He was warned for disruptive editing already in 2018 ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%D0%9B%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B2_%D0%92%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80&diff=837694550&oldid=837375806 see this warning by Polyamorph]); 2) Attempted to humiliate the [[Lithuanian language]] already in 2015 ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%D0%9B%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B2_%D0%92%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80&diff=681558112&oldid=681547336 last edit from the 2015 discussion]), but was stopped by other users; 3) Performed [[WP:OR]] edit-revert warring in article [[Grand Duchy of Lithuania]] in 2015 ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%D0%9B%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B2_%D0%92%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80&diff=692260134&oldid=692233833 warning by Sabbatino], who has [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=Sabbatino reviewer rights]).

Diffs of the latest disruptive editing:

* [[Pogonia]]: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogonia&diff=1028874488&oldid=1028862848 1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogonia&diff=1028904491&oldid=1028877893 2], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogonia&diff=1028931823&oldid=1028917961 3], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogonia&diff=1029207238&oldid=1029043646 4], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogonia&diff=1029809952&oldid=1029207675 5], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogonia&diff=1030183170&oldid=1029893941 6] (pay attention that the 6th revert was made '''after''' the AN report was created and after his reply there; he doesn't care).<br/>

* [[Pogoń]]: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogo%C5%84&diff=1016763841&oldid=1016177967 1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogo%C5%84&diff=1016813734&oldid=1016786749 2], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogo%C5%84&diff=1016910198&oldid=1016909518 3], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogo%C5%84&diff=1016995231&oldid=1016915836 4], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogo%C5%84&diff=1017014806&oldid=1017008944 5], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogo%C5%84&diff=1017035296&oldid=1017017759 6], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogo%C5%84&diff=1017054927&oldid=1017037921 7], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogo%C5%84&diff=1017060363&oldid=1017056827 8]. There he performed edit warring against three users: me, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Onel5969 Onel5969] (patroller, reviewer, rollbacker), [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Elmidae Elmidae] (patroller, rollbacker).<br/>

* [[Moldavia]] (first episode): [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moldavia&diff=prev&oldid=1022496956 1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moldavia&diff=prev&oldid=1022571393 2], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moldavia&diff=prev&oldid=1022611836 3]; [[Moldavia]] (second episode): [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moldavia&diff=prev&oldid=1028873474 1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moldavia&diff=prev&oldid=1028902734 2], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moldavia&diff=prev&oldid=1028932203 3], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moldavia&diff=prev&oldid=1029991771 4], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moldavia&diff=prev&oldid=1029996091 5], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moldavia&diff=prev&oldid=1030045611 6] (he kept reinserting reference from a Russian nationalistic POV website, named cyber [[Vladimir Lenin|leninist]] (''leninka''), as "reliable" when describing [[Moldova]]-related topic).<br/>

* [[Romanian-language schools in Transnistria]]: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Romanian-language_schools_in_Transnistria&diff=prev&oldid=1017614203 1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Romanian-language_schools_in_Transnistria&diff=prev&oldid=1017614209 2], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Romanian-language_schools_in_Transnistria&diff=prev&oldid=1017756001 3], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Romanian-language_schools_in_Transnistria&diff=prev&oldid=1017756006 4], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Romanian-language_schools_in_Transnistria&diff=prev&oldid=1017756905 5], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Romanian-language_schools_in_Transnistria&diff=prev&oldid=1017756499 6].

For my initial report at AN I compiled a list of his disruptive editing over the years, which was declined for being too long, but it is an excellent material illustrating his systematic attacks on other countries articles over the years (also includes [[Ukraine]], etc.): [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=1030083976&oldid=1030056176 list from his edit history]. This user's disruptive actions should be analyzed not only from the recent edits as he has been doing it for years.

As noted above, I have tried to deal with this user's disruptive editing at the AN, but he enjoys some kind of protection there and was only encouraged to continue his disruptive editing. Being a quality editor of Wikipedia myself (I was never warned for disruptive editing or blocked), I do not want to engage in this user's edit warring again and again. His attacks on other countries articles and pushing of pro-Russian POV is likely due to his membership in the [[Russian web brigades]].

*{{Comment}} '''(following the first statements by administrators).''' {{replyto|CaptainEek}}, {{replyto|Beeblebrox}}, {{replyto|:SoWhy}}, {{replyto|Deepfriedokra}}, {{replyto|RandomCanadian}}, {{replyto|Robert McClenon}}, {{replyto|Primefac}} it is not a content dispute and it goes far beyond the article [[Pahonia]] as these three users (noted by {{ping|Sabbatino}}) systematically attack [[Lithuania]]-related topics in Wikipedia (and [[Moldavia]]-related topics as well). It is obvious that they are [[Russian web brigades|Russian/Belarusian trolls]], who probably work for the [[Internet Research Agency]]. How is it possible to peacefully deal with these editors when they stubbornly claim that: 1) [[Lithuania#Grand Duchy of Lithuania]] is not [[Lithuania#1990–present]] ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogonia&diff=1028904491&oldid=1028877893 1]); 2) [[Coat of arms of Lithuania]] belongs to [[Russia]], not [[Lithuania]] and [[Lithuanians]] because Russia annexed Lithuania, see: [[Russian partition]] ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Coat_of_arms_of_Lithuania&diff=1017540938&oldid=1014917310 2]); 3) the [[Lithuanian language]] is not related with Lithuania-Grand Duchy of Lithuania and should be removed-censored ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%D0%9B%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B2_%D0%92%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80&diff=681558112&oldid=681547336 3]); 4) As stated above, they base their information on sources like cyber [[Vladimir Lenin|leninist]] and various random non-online Cyrillic sources, books. This is a clear systematic attack against Lithuania-related topics. Moreover, they perform such attacks in other projects of Wikipedia as well by single-handedly removing content, performing edit warring, pushing pro-Russian, pro-Belarusian POV, for example, in Wikidata: [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q96754462&action=history 1], [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q49683&action=history 2]. I do not want to fight with them anymore. By the way, user Лобачев Владимир published a [[Wikipedia:Threat]] that if the Wikipedians will decide to remake article [[Pahonia]] into a redirect page at the survey (nearly all the neutral users agree that this article is named in a disruptive way), it will: "''cause numerous editing wars and reignite chauvinism on Wikipedia''" ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pahonia&diff=1029996016&oldid=1029995448 threat published by Лобачев Владимир]). Such trolls are perfectly described at article [[Russian web brigades]]: "''Prominent journalist and Russia expert Peter Pomerantsev believes Russia's efforts are aimed at confusing the audience, rather than convincing it. He states that they cannot censor information but can "trash it with conspiracy theories and rumours"'' ([https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31962644 ref]). PLEASE FINALLY STOP THEIR ATTACKS IN LITHUANIA-RELATED TOPICS!

:By the way, please take a look at arguments presented by user {{ping|Rgvis}} at the latest report to the AN here: [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive436#User:Лобачев_Владимир_reported_by_User:Pofka_(Result:_)]] as he found and provided a lot of evidence about this user's attack on Moldavian-Romanian topics as well. '''Moreover, Sabbatino is a reviewer in Lithuania-related topics and he also clearly noticed these users disruptive editing'''. I came [[Wikipedia:Here to build an encyclopedia]], not to constantly fight with Russian trolls who do not provide any counterarguments and simply revert again and again everywhere. Currently, user Лобачев Владимир is especially active in all projects of Wikipedia. These constant attacks are a serious danger for the content of Wikipedia and by feeling unstoppable they will certainly continue their dirty work! Read yourself using Google translate what they are discussing in Russian Wikipedia (presented by Sabbatino): [https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0:%D0%9B%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B2_%D0%92%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80&diff=115093962&oldid=115093958 latest edit] and here is copy-paste of their discussion from Google translate (sorry that I insert long statement but as noted by Sabbatino they do delete their edits in Russian Wikipedia, so we must secure evidence):

{{quote box|width=69em|align=center|quote="Good day colleague. I am aware that you, like me, faced incomprehensible behavior on the part of the English Wikipedia member Pofka Novogrudok in this discussion page, it got to the point that this member does not respect other Wikipedia members, promotes the Lithuanian national agenda and also threatens other Wikipedia members from - for the fact that they do not support his position, the Sabbatino member was attacked. Do you think it is worth writing a complaint about a Pofka member? Regards, Johnny Moor (obshu) 15:27, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Good health! I do not even know. Will it help? Formally, there are no serious violations of the rules. - Vladimir Lobachev (observatory) 17:30, June 19, 2021 (UTC)
But what about the threats against Sabatino? Plus, he also uses Wikipedia as a tribune to defend his nationalist interests, VP: NETRIBUNA. Why should we take into account his theories, but he does not? He writes as if we generally reject the theories of Lithuanian scientists. In parallel, you can see that he is trying to conduct an original research, VP: ORISS. This can be seen from the fact that he begins to aggressively prove to the rest of the participants his point of view regarding the theory about Novogrudok, while not referring to anything at all. And if it does refer, then only where it is not. The latter is generally nonsense. He calls the theory about Novogrudok in itself absurd, but he sees nothing problematic in the theory about Vilnius and do not care that the city was founded almost 70 years after the coronation of Mindaugas. It may sound loud and violate the rules of Wikipedia, but I just can't, it seems to me that this Lithuanian contributor is simply inadequate. Sorry, I could not restrain myself. Best regards, Johnny Moor (observatory) 19:44 20 June 2021 (UTC)
If you write a complaint that this member violates the rules of the English Wikipedia, I will support, but with my "knowledge" of English I will not be able to fully participate. Is the mentioned Sabbatino member up to date and will also support? - Vladimir Lobachev (observatory) 22:26, ​​June 20, 2021 (UTC)
I'll try to contact him. He hasn't answered me yet. Thank you. Regards, Johnny Moor (obs.) 11:57, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
So I hit his "skating rink". :-( - Lobachev Vladimir (observatory) 19:53, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
He is clearly not adequate. '''It is necessary to recruit more people in order to roll a complaint against him. Then we will deal with it.''' I'm trying to contact the Sabbatino member here, but his discussion page, on the Belarusian Wikipedia, is completely deleted by the Belarusian-speaking member JerzyKundrat, calling it spam, while he is the administrator there. And to my compensation, he only replied to me that "we are not colleagues." Tell me, are the rules for discussion pages in the Belarusian Wikipedia the same? What can be presented to a participant if he deletes information from another participant? Best regards, Johnny Moor (obs.) 11:57, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
The opinion of colleagues @Sabbatino: and @Kazimier Lachnovič: on this situation it would be interesting to hear. In Russian or another language. - Vladimir Lobachev (observatory) 09:18, June 24, 2021 (UTC)
Good day, dear colleagues. I confirm the above observations. I am ready to support the corresponding request, but personally I was very disappointed with the reaction of the administration of the English Wikipedia to the inappropriate behavior of the participant in his own request. I was already inclined to minimize my participation in this section, so as not to waste my time fighting the absurdity and chaos there, but as recent events show, it is not a fact that the mentioned participant will not continue the pursuit, starting with personal attacks like this (... but such falsification of history is limited to a fraction of ultra nationalists (just like Kazimier who actively participated in edit warring) ...) and ending with provoking edit wars and far-fetched requests to the administration. In any case, it should be borne in mind that he has a certain group of support (here is their last failed attack on me at Wikimedia Commons). Regarding the official Belarusian Wikipedia, I checked, it seems that the message was no longer deleted. If the deletion is repeated, I will try to personally contact the mentioned administrator. we have already corresponded earlier and I have a good opinion of him. In my opinion, here it would be worthwhile to make a certain amendment to the current social situation in Belarus, which has a variety of unpleasant manifestations, incl. may create distrust of previously unfamiliar participants. Kazimer Lyakhnovich (observatory) 17:53, June 24, 2021 (UTC)" |source=— [https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0:%D0%9B%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B2_%D0%92%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80&diff=115093962&oldid=115093958 their latest edit]
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They really coordinate their actions and attack Lithuania-related topics together. And likely want to hunt users like me and Sabbatino who oppose their disruptive edits in Wikipedia. -- [[User:Pofka|<span style="color:#fdb913;"><strong>Po</strong></span><span style="color:#006a44;"><strong>fk</strong></span><span style="color:#c1272d;"><strong>a</strong></span>]] ([[User talk:Pofka|talk]]) 12:28, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

=== Statement by Лобачев Владимир ===
I try not to wage editing wars. But when they try to force their way through their point of view, I do not always hold back. Unfortunately, User: Pofka often starts such provocative actions. Check out these articles and edits.<br>
[[Pogoń]]: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogo%C5%84&diff=prev&oldid=967291609 Consensus version].<br>
[[User:Pofka|Pofka]]:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogo%C5%84&diff=prev&oldid=1016177967 1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogo%C5%84&diff=next&oldid=1016763841 2], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogo%C5%84&diff=next&oldid=1016813734 3], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogo%C5%84&diff=next&oldid=1016910198 4], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogo%C5%84&diff=next&oldid=1016995231 5], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogo%C5%84&diff=next&oldid=1017014806 6], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogo%C5%84&diff=next&oldid=1017035296 7], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogo%C5%84&diff=next&oldid=1017054927 8], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogo%C5%84&diff=next&oldid=1017056482 9].

[[Pogonia]]: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogonia&diff=prev&oldid=933059433 Consensus version].<br>
[[User:Pofka|Pofka]]:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogonia&diff=next&oldid=933059433 1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogonia&diff=next&oldid=1016196842 2], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogonia&diff=next&oldid=1028758484 3], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogonia&diff=next&oldid=1028874488 4], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogonia&diff=next&oldid=1028904491 5], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogonia&diff=next&oldid=1028931823 6], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogonia&diff=next&oldid=1029207238 7], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogonia&diff=next&oldid=1029860913 8].

I don't know English well, and translate.google.com does not always translate correctly, as sometimes my translation is not entirely accurate or not entirely clear. Therefore, it is difficult for me to enter into large and complex correspondence. I try not to start wars first, but I don't always hold back when provoked. I believe that in this nomination we both deserve a warning. --[[User:Лобачев Владимир|Лобачев Владимир / Lobachev Vladimir]] ([[User talk:Лобачев Владимир|talk]]) 17:24, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

=== Statement by Rgvis ===
I already have an extended comment on the latest [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive436#User:%D0%9B%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B2_%D0%92%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80_reported_by_User:Pofka_(Result:_) edit-warring noticeboard report], regarding [[user:Лобачев Владимир]]'s actions which take place constantly over time and simultaneously on several Wikimedia projects (Wikipedia, Wikicommons, Wikidata). From my point of view, the absence of any minimum measures will further encourage this type of disruptive behavior, which, in similar situations, led other users to simply give up any involvement in the topics in question, preferring to save time for other purposes (and, for users who contribute voluntarily, time is a valuable resource). ([[User:Rgvis|Rgvis]] ([[User talk:Rgvis|talk]]) 14:53, 29 June 2021 (UTC))

=== Statement by El_C ===
Here, as well as earlier, at [[User_talk:El_C#User Лобачев Владимир malicious activity at article Pahonia and Moldavia]], the OP says that I specifically warned Лобачев Владимир against edit warring, but for the record, my protection summary actually said [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pahonia&diff=1019404967&oldid=1019337393 "disputants"] (plural). I'm not really familiar with the details of the dispute itself, so I'm unable to provide further input about it at this time beyond this brief note. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 16:00, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

=== Statement by Deepfriedokra ===
*{{yo|CaptainEek}} Looks like "Lobachev vladimir" to me.
*FWIW, I just have to say this cause feels bootstrapped. Not feeling the complaint on its face is ArbCom worthy. (remember that TV commercial, "Where's the beef.") Just my impression on a irst reading. Delving deeper might reveal more.

=== Statement by RandomCanadian ===
The OP is the same one that filed the recently declined Pahonia case. I note that the RfC there, [[Talk:Pahonia#RFC:_Pahonia]], hasn't yet been closed either. I still don't see anything that couldn't be resolved by a well-crafted AE request under the EE scope (the named editor have now been warned of these). The OP should be reminded against filing further Arbcom case requests and instead trying to make use of the existing processes at his disposal, and coming back here only if these do not succeed in fixing the perceived disruption. Cheers, [[User:RandomCanadian|RandomCanadian]] ([[User talk:RandomCanadian|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/RandomCanadian|contribs]]) 23:28, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

=== Statement by Robert McClenon ===
This is a conduct dispute arising out of a content dispute (because most conduct disputes arise out of content disputes) about [[WP:ARBEE|Eastern Europe]]. This is the sort of dispute that the ArbCom designed [[WP:AE|Arbitration Enforcement]] to handle. ArbCom doesn't throw [[WP:BOOMERANG|boomerangs]], but lets the administrators at [[WP:AE|Arbitration Enforcement]] deal with those or other weapons. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 01:30, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
:Arbitrators and Clerks: The filing party is being [[WP:DE|disruptive]] in pinging everyone who has said anything. Can something be done? [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 15:55, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

=== Statement by Sabbatino ===
It appears that {{User|Лобачев Владимир}}, {{User|Johnny Moor}} and {{User|Kazimier Lachnovič}} are coordinating their replies in English Wikipedia through [https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0:%D0%9B%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B2_%D0%92%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80#%D0%9D%D0%B5%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B5_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%B2_%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B8 Russian Wikipedia]. Johnny Moor previously wrote to me on [https://be.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B_%D0%B7_%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B7%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%96%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BC:Sabbatino#%D0%9D%D0%B5%D0%B0%D0%B4%D1%8D%D0%BA%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BD%D1%8B%D1%8F_%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B7%D1%96%D0%BD%D1%8B_%D1%96%D0%BD%D1%88%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%B0_%D1%9E%D0%B4%D0%B7%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%96%D0%BA%D0%B0 Belarusian Wikipedia] and I replied to him, but the administrator removed my reply from my own talk page calling it "spam". Johnny Moor, for some strange reason, thought that Pofka threatened me somewhere on English Wikipedia and I replied on my Belarusian Wikipedia talk page using Google Translate (the reply is already deleted) that no threats were made towards me by Pofka since I am not Belarusian or Russian (I cannot understand why they think that I am from one of those countries). I then received a ping from Russian Wikipedia where they asked me the same thing, but I am not going to reply there since I am not involved in these disputes. And as Pofka wrote in the past – the three editors think (that is what I could understand from their Russian Wikipedia talk) that their Belarusian sources (which are heavily prone to [[WP:OR]], [[WP:SYNTH]] and even [[WP:HOAX]]) are superior to anything added by non-Belarusian/Russian editors. It looks like the three aforementioned editors are involved in [[WP:CANVASS]] on other Wikipedia projects so they should probably be blocked from editing English Wikipedia to stop the disruption. – [[User:Sabbatino|Sabbatino]] ([[User talk:Sabbatino|talk]]) 09:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
:Just want to notify that Pofka decided to do the same as the aforementioned editors when he wrote a message in Lithuanian language on my talk page on Luxembourgish Wikipedia. In addition, I am not involved in the issue and all four for some reason think that I am. Therefore, I do not want to hear my name in these discussion ever again. All four editors (Лобачев Владимир, Johnny Moor, Kazimier Lachnovič and Pofka) should be blocked for some time so they would understand a thing or two, because at the moment they all clearly are [[WP:NOTHERE]] (battleground, lack of collaboration, etc). – [[User:Sabbatino|Sabbatino]] ([[User talk:Sabbatino|talk]]) 10:17, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

=== Statement by {Non-party} ===
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=== Systematic disruptive editing, provocations of edit warring in Wikipedia by user Лобачев Владимир: Clerk notes ===
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*{{u|Robert McClenon}}, just to note I've seen your request. [[User:Dreamy Jazz|Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">'''Jazz'''</i>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Dreamy Jazz|talk to me]]'' &#124; ''[[Special:Contribs/Dreamy Jazz|my contributions]]''</sup> 15:59, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

=== Systematic disruptive editing, provocations of edit warring in Wikipedia by user Лобачев Владимир: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/8/0> ===
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*I note that the AN discussion wasn't actually about Лобачев Владимир, it was about another editor and Лобачев Владимир just happened to come up in passing, so I'm not exactly convinced that AN/ANI couldn't handle this. Also, could someone provide a Romanization or shortening or even a pronunciation of Лобачев Владимир's name? Regrettably, I lack the ability to read Cyrillic and my brain just glosses right over their name. [[User:CaptainEek|<span style="color:#6a1f7f">'''CaptainEek'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:CaptainEek|<span style="font-size:82%"><span style="color:#a479e5">''Edits Ho Cap'n!''</span></span>]]</sup>[[Special:Contributions/CaptainEek|⚓]] 18:54, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
*:Machine translation says "Lobachev Vladimir". [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:36, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
*::Human transliteration agrees with you. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 01:27, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
*This reads an awful lot like blaming one person for a series of edit wars, when that is literally impossible. It takes a minimum of two people to edit war, nobody, ever, actually ''has to'' do it. At a glance I'm having trouble seeing this as an arbcom matter. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:39, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
*:'''Decline''' I do sympathize that the filing party feels they have tried other forms of dispute resolution to no avail, but after looking at some of those attempts it isn't hard to see why. Succinctness is your friend when dealing in dispute resolution, long walls of text tend to get significanlty less attention. In any event I also agree that existing DS cover this topic area and we should defer to that. A case framed as being about one single (non-admin) user is unlikely to be a matter that requires a month-long process through a committee. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 18:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I see no reason to disagree with Robert McClenon's assessment here that this is already covered by the existing Eastern Europe DS and can be handled at AE if necessary. Regards [[User:SoWhy|<span style="color:#7A2F2F;font-variant:small-caps">So</span>]][[User talk:SoWhy|<span style="color:#474F84;font-variant:small-caps">Why</span>]] 09:36, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' as premature, as I haven't seen anything to indicate this cannot be solved through the regular mechanisms. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 12:17, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' per my colleagues, with the only thing giving me pause is off wiki coordination. After going through the diffs I do agree with Pofka (and Sabbatino) that Лобачев Владимир's editing is disruptive and that Pofka hasn't recieved much help when trying community forums (more on this in a moment). If Лобачев Владимир had been properly notified of DS before these edits (they were only notified yesterday by RandomCanadian) I'd have been inclined to issue a sanction myself as an individual AE action. That said, Pofka I get that it is frustrating to see a wrong and not be able to get help. You don't do yourself any favors by posting so much text. A more concise ANI report might have gotten action. I would also advise you to be aware of the fact that edit warring is not OK even if you are ultimately right about content. Use lower forms of Dispute Resolution, such as [[WP:3PO|third opinion]] to get assistance in such cases rather than edit warring. [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 17:06, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' per Barkeep49. '''[[User:L235|KevinL]]''' (<small>aka</small> [[User:L235|L235]] '''·''' [[User talk:L235#top|t]] '''·''' [[Special:Contribs/L235|c]]) 18:13, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' – I understand that resolving disputes can be extremely frustrating, especially when you feel like you're all alone, but Wikipedia does have processes for dealing with these before Arbitration becomes necessary. I will leave some more detailed information on your talk page. – [[User:Bradv|<span style="color:#333">'''brad''v'''''</span>]][[User talk:Bradv|<span style="color:transparent;text-shadow:0 0 0 darkorange;font-size:80%">🍁</span>]] 19:47, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. We're not at the point where arbitration is warranted or would be useful. [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color: #cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color: #cc6600;">talk</span>]]</small></sup> 19:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
*'''Decline''', and I will also leave a note on your talkpage. '''[[User talk:Maxim|<font face="Arial"><font color="#FF7133">Maxim</font><sub><small><font color="blue">(talk)</font></small></sub></font>]]''' 13:06, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

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