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::Mind your language Matthew. Many Hongkongers are editing without any account. They aren't meatsocks, nor do they recently "emerg[ed]". I just checked 220.246.55.231's contribution history and that can confirm that he or she has edited since quite some time ago. I myself edited the Holy Trinity Cathedral entry quite some time ago too and have been watching it. [[Special:Contributions/219.73.73.107|219.73.73.107]] ([[User talk:219.73.73.107|talk]]) 13:17, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
::Mind your language Matthew. Many Hongkongers are editing without any account. They aren't meatsocks, nor do they recently "emerg[ed]". I just checked 220.246.55.231's contribution history and that can confirm that he or she has edited since quite some time ago. I myself edited the Holy Trinity Cathedral entry quite some time ago too and have been watching it. [[Special:Contributions/219.73.73.107|219.73.73.107]] ([[User talk:219.73.73.107|talk]]) 13:17, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
:Add blocked {{ipuser|124.217.189.123}} purely for documentation . It seems they are quite interested on POV edit on [[Country]]. [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 13:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
:Add blocked {{ipuser|124.217.189.123}} purely for documentation . It seems they are quite interested on POV edit on [[Country]]. [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 13:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

:::Not sure why someone start a cult that not registering an account. But at least [[User:Citobun]] and [[User:Kdm852]] seems came from HK. And lots of other retired user, likes [[User:Ricky@36]]. Admin can tells they are very very different editors by edit history and area of interest. But you guys that keep on editing a few articles within a month (week), setting a trap for mass blocking all of the ip. (Articles are [[Country]], [[List of lighthouses in China]], [[Holy Trinity Cathedral, Hong Kong]], [[Military of Hong Kong]], which all of them is not appeared in [[WP:WPHK]] and high likely canvassed off-site (place other than wikipedia). [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 14:15, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
I have an unusual proposal here. This rangeblock, and similar ones for other HK ISPs, is going to have massive collateral damage. But if one of the characteristics of this sockmaster / troop leader is that they refuse to register an account, then surely the appropriate solution here is to temporarily soft-block the IP range from editing without logging in but '''permit account creation'''? [[User:Deryck Chan|Deryck]][[User talk:Deryck Chan| C.]] 13:10, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
I have an unusual proposal here. This rangeblock, and similar ones for other HK ISPs, is going to have massive collateral damage. But if one of the characteristics of this sockmaster / troop leader is that they refuse to register an account, then surely the appropriate solution here is to temporarily soft-block the IP range from editing without logging in but '''permit account creation'''? [[User:Deryck Chan|Deryck]][[User talk:Deryck Chan| C.]] 13:10, 23 January 2021 (UTC)


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14.0.180.170

14.0.180.170 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)


21 January 2021

– This SPI case is open.

Suspected sockpuppets

IP socks with the same identical behavior, hopping about but has now also continued to make frivolous edit requests on talk pages, vote stacking, and removing those who are against such changes. Just as how Valereee had reported almost a month ago, they have the same arguments, same hostility, and all geolocate to Hong Kong. Not sure as to how IPs are supposed to be addressed. See here for one example.

Other examples:

Some IP ranges:

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

I can't tell it is a sock or meatsock. And those kid and teen from lihkg has a track record of running offsite canvassing (e.g. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chinazi (2nd nomination)) and has a telegram group. E.g. this thread and a screenshot of such group https://lihkg.com/thread/2373493/. Not sure should i join the cult and ask them nicely why they feel not registering is good as well as why not revive the dead project WP:WPHK. Matthew hk (talk) 13:43, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And i guess right after 124.217.189.34 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) (from ISP HGC's non ISP subsidiary Domain Five Enterprises) and 219.76.24.202 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) (PCCW's HKT Limited's Netvigator) were blocked, he (or another meat?) immediately hooped to 223.197.192.15 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) (from ISP PCCW) and comment in Talk:Holy Trinity Cathedral, Hong Kong#Edit war. Matthew hk (talk) 13:59, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
While 218.189.215.212 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) (from ISP HGC) is still active (the ip was also reported , see the archive), but more likely a meatsock. Matthew hk (talk) 14:53, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
See also my filing in Wikipedia:WikiProject on open proxies/Requests#124.217.128.0/18. Matthew hk (talk) 14:19, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think the website that you had linked are pretty good evidence of a significant meatpuppet operation. It probably started as sockpuppetry, and was then supported by meatpuppetry after posts were made about them or shared. It kinda makes sense as to why they all geolocate to Hong Kong, despite being of different IPs and telcos. I doubt they are interested in making an account on here, as their behavior tends to imply making swift (usually POV) edits with little to no discussion over them as well as vote stacking with a subtle malicious intent. ShelteredCook (talk) 20:24, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
They do have public thread to teach people to POV edit in zh-wiki on pro-Beijing politicians wiki article and those pro-democrat . https://lihkg.com/thread/2358050/ Not sure are they have any thread in telegram group about en-wiki. Matthew hk (talk) 11:48, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have any evidence that the entries concerned were discussed on LiHKG or the Telegram channel? Or the English version of Wikipedia in general? If yes please quote the corresponding post IDs. 219.73.73.107 (talk) 13:17, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You made yourself into the collateral damage zone. By not creating an account , and within January, likes the blocked sockmaster, edited Talk:Holy Trinity Cathedral, Hong Kong and Holy Trinity Cathedral, Hong Kong and especially emerged in the talk page after the ip are blocked. Matthew hk (talk) 14:10, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, meatsock keeps emerging.... Add 219.73.73.107 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) (related to Holy Trinity Cathedral, Hong Kong and Country, where the blocked ip 124.217.189.34 also edited) Matthew hk (talk) 11:51, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Add 220.246.55.231 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). Related to List of lighthouses in China and Talk:Military of Hong Kong. Matthew hk (talk) 12:53, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Mind your language Matthew. Many Hongkongers are editing without any account. They aren't meatsocks, nor do they recently "emerg[ed]". I just checked 220.246.55.231's contribution history and that can confirm that he or she has edited since quite some time ago. I myself edited the Holy Trinity Cathedral entry quite some time ago too and have been watching it. 219.73.73.107 (talk) 13:17, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Add blocked 124.217.189.123 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) purely for documentation . It seems they are quite interested on POV edit on Country. Matthew hk (talk) 13:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure why someone start a cult that not registering an account. But at least User:Citobun and User:Kdm852 seems came from HK. And lots of other retired user, likes User:Ricky@36. Admin can tells they are very very different editors by edit history and area of interest. But you guys that keep on editing a few articles within a month (week), setting a trap for mass blocking all of the ip. (Articles are Country, List of lighthouses in China, Holy Trinity Cathedral, Hong Kong, Military of Hong Kong, which all of them is not appeared in WP:WPHK and high likely canvassed off-site (place other than wikipedia). Matthew hk (talk) 14:15, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have an unusual proposal here. This rangeblock, and similar ones for other HK ISPs, is going to have massive collateral damage. But if one of the characteristics of this sockmaster / troop leader is that they refuse to register an account, then surely the appropriate solution here is to temporarily soft-block the IP range from editing without logging in but permit account creation? Deryck C. 13:10, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

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