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Non-Free Fair Use - Allegation of unnecessary duplicatation of image[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result is that the NFCC 3a failure speedy deletion flag placed by Fastily on 15 June 2020 (see diff [1]), following consensus in this discussion that the failure flag was inappropriate, is that the NFCC 3a failure speedy deletion flag was removed by administrator Explicit (see diff [2]) and the image has been retained. Kangaresearch 08:44, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A NFCC 3a failure flag has been placed on this image, without proper explanation as to why the individual who flagged it considers it an unnecessary duplication.

The file image is not identical to the other file image displayed in Australian Antarctic Medal, which is File:Australian Antarctic Medal.png (which is an image of the riband, suspender bar and obverse of the medal face - which is unique and distinct). This file image is of the reverse of the medal face, which is unique and distinct to this medal and not the same design as that on the obverse.

The Wikipedia Non-Free Content Criteria policy Criterion 3a states that multiple items of non-free content are not to be used if one item can convey equivalent information. There is no RfC on the interpretation of NFCC 3a, so normal interpretation rules applies.

The Macquarie Dictionary defines equivalent as:

  • equal in value, measure... effect, significance
  • corresponding in position, function
  • that which is equivalent... equal

This image may be related to the same object, but it is not equivalent or equal, it is of the unique and distinct reverse, which is not equal or equivalent to the image of its obverse. Nor is the reverse of the medal of a standard format (like a lot of medals in other countries are, where a common effigy is used), but is specific and unique to this medal (and this medal alone).

It also follows the convention in Medal, where both a obverse and reverse of the same medal is displayed (in much larger prominence that Australian Antarctic Medal uses, and unlike in Medal, is specifically focussed on the discussion and design of the medal displayed), and that in Meritorious Service Medal (New Zealand) (which displays both obverse and reverse for two version of the medal), and the British Empire Medal to name a few examples.

As such, the NFCC 3a flag applied is inappropriate and should be removed. Kangaresearch 11:25, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The reverse of the medal is unique to the medal. Use of the image is therefore reasonably "necessary". The image is not a "duplication" of the image depicting the obverse and ribbon. One image (unless it depicts the obverse, the reverse, ribbon and like) does not adequately suffice. The image in question does not of itself contain any intellectual property of substance. I belive that the image reasonably meets the criteria for retention. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 12:20, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
G'day, I agree with this also. Given that the article it is used in is about the medal itself and is used to support cited commentary that describes both the different designs of the obverse and reverse sides of the medal, it seems to me that a small image such as this is warranted to aid reader understanding. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 08:40, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.