Category talk:Redirects from long names

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Names of people

This category should be subdivided to separate full names of people from long names of places, things, events, etc. -- œ ^™ 06:19, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

R from official name

The {{R from official name}} redirect should become a separate template. It has nothing intrinsically to do with length, but documentary WP:OFFICIALNAME sources versus WP:COMMONNAME references, and is sometimes shorter. For examle, the old Universum Film, formerly officially Universum Film AG, is now UFA GmBH, which is shorter than both, but the least common name due to the recentness of the change. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ 01:32, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

To editor SMcCandlish: I agree that R from official name can be to a shorter or longer name, so it should not redirect to R from long name. At this point, though, I'd like to know if there is a need to track and monitor "official names" outside of the Category:Redirects from alternative names? If this need is demonstrated, then R from official name should become a separate template – if there is no such need, then it should be redirected to {{R from alternative name}}. I've already done the latter pending your welcome thoughts. Paine ^u/c 18:29, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Paine Ellsworth: I would think it at least potentially useful, since recent and semi-recent official name changes have a strong tendency to become the common name over time (often over a fairlyq short time), and so these page names need to be monitored and updated in many cases. That said ... if no one cares, it could remain a redir to {{R from alternative name}}. Just the existence of the redir is probably enough to track the cases (or, rather, those anyone bothers to tag this specifically, which would probably go up over time, and would go up more if it had a separate template and category). — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ 13:46, 16 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fairly neutral either way, since I already monitor the 218 categories and rcats in Category:Redirect templates plus several others, so one more additional rcat isn't much of a stretch. Jarry's tool says there are presently 103 transclusions, so it's still a "maybe". Since more and more editors are becoming involved with redirect categorization, we're coming to the point where they may want to take part in these decisions at a centralized forum such as at the project. Paine ^u/c 14:22, 16 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Do long names need to be official names?

For use of the long name redirect on the title of a film, does the long name need to be an "undisputed official name" that is also included in the main article lead? Please see Hell's Angel: Mother Teresa of Calcutta. Wallyfromdilbert (talk) 00:49, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]